NioNai

Okay I've been doing some hunting. *still new at this.*

But by what I've come across I have found that the D16A Venom Intake Manifold will Fit the D17A2.

How much work will I have to do get this to fit. Or is it just a complete slide on?

As well would a D16A ITBS work on my D17A2?
http://zitec.cz/shop/intake/itbs/itbs.htm
Would the ITBS be worth it or would the IM be good?

Also could someone give me a link to a place that sells the Venom Intake mani. If not I'll try and find it myself.

Thanks.

NioNai

Okay I found a site that sells them.
http://www.extremestyling.com/Venom-...B001GWI86E.htm

around 700$ after shipping. Sounds good?

gearbox

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i think only one person has done it and requires alot of custom work. also you better have a turbo with this otherwise the car will run like crap.

NioNai

Not yet. Anyways the car runs like crap anyways. I'm just checking into the parts, Especially since I haven't been able to find a good Intake mani for the D17 myself.

Anyways. What about the ITB? would that be a better choice? especially since I'm debaiting having the turbo or not. Depending on how my searching goes I may not turbo it and just keep it N/A

NioNai

Okay After looking some more, I take its its the D16y8 not the D16A1.

I can't find the DIY on there. I have done a search and found more info on the site. But they all say someone is working the DIY?

Any links to that. I'm looking right now, so I may pop in and say nevermind.

Also is the ITB even possible on the d17a2?

NioNai

I found out the venom works. And got kind of a How to on the Swap.

baron340

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No the venom one doesn't work. The runners are too long. Unless you want to hack into your firewall, you can't do it. It takes quite a bit of modification for the d16y8 manifold to work and if you have anything other than an 01-02 LX DX, you need a standalone EMS for it to work. Basically for it to work, you have to drill out a few holes and make an adapter for the throttle body along with a custom throttle cable bracket.

NioNai

That doesn't work?

I don't mind cutting into crap. Makes no difference to me. But what I found, it seems he has done this and several other people seem to recommend it..

I'm not sure this is why I'm asking since I can't find a real how to.

anyways anyone know anything about the ITB yet?

also thanks for the help.

NioNai

Question would I be able to get away with cutting the pipes a bit and then re welding them to fit into my engine bay?

Or would that affect somthing?

I may have to start thinking way outside the box on this.

NioNai

NVM on the ITBS I found em, Now I just have to decide which one I want.

I guess the ITBS would be best if I kept the engine N/A and the Venom if I plan to turbo it in the future.

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unTuned

whos cars are those both? where did you get those pictures.

NioNai

Double post.

NioNai

I know one was Barney. *Heard a lot of people had issues with him not giving full items on sells*

As for the ITB, I found it on a link, I only have the picture bookmarked but I do not remember who the own of the car was.

*link*

NioNai

By what I have read up on again. the D16y8 doesn't come with a EGR on it?

So would I have to cut then weld my current EGR to it, Or would there be another way around this.

I'm searching so I may find the answer before. But it would be a big help if someone who has gone threw this 100% could help me out there

NioNai

https://www.civicforums.com/forums/7...fold-swap.html

Found a DYI from 06.

So I guess its kind a of a bump for anyone else who wants to do this.

NioNai

https://www.civicforums.com/forums/7...fold-swap.html

Found a DYI from 06.

So I guess its kind a of a bump for anyone else who wants to do this.

jlvs021

if you have questions about the intake manifold you should really ask baron, he has one in his car and has it turboed, i bought my car and the previous owner had installed it, cant compare with another d17 because havent driven another stock one, ill post pictures soon

another thing is that the guy that did mine used the stock TB, modified a bit

NioNai

okay, Cool, and thanks for the help. pictures would be very helpful.

baron340

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I just pm'd you on 7thgen.. but as for those venom intake mani pics. Again, I said it can't be done 'without a lot of modification'. If you look carefully at that manifold, the runners have been cut and shortened. In addition to that, he is running some older gen TB, which I couldn't get to work. I'm not saying it isn't possible, but I couldn't make it work. The IACV causes too many issues. He also had to run a resistor box and probably an injector driver for those injectors. He also converted to a return setup. You see where I'm going with this... My point is this: engines are just hunks of metal, with the proper understanding of how it all fits together you can make anything work if you try hard enough. ITB's are possible, it's been done. But from what I've read, the amount of work and headaches involved isn't worth the power gains. On a B series where N/A power is possible, yes it's a good setup.. but the d17 just doesn't have huge N/A potential, mostly from a cost standpoint.

NioNai

Okay I kinda figured that hey cut it shorter.

But that seems like a bit to much work. I think I'll just do the y8 ones and give it a new coat of paint.

Thanks for the help.

unTuned

do you already have what you need to do the y8? i want to see some pictures when youve got it all finished.

NioNai

I Will be able to pick the part up next Thur. So I should be started in a week. I'll be sure to get plenty of pics, I'll also try and make a couple of video clips if I can.

But yea. A week away. :P and I'll try and find a Dyno in town so I can check what I am now and after. Since no one has really done this.

baron340

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Umm.. wrong again.. .. I dynoed 121 with k-pro, nasty 3" exhaust, and the y8 mani. Oh yeah.. and it's a measly little LX