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What it does:
The sidemarkers will turn on with the parking lights. When the turn signal is on, the sidemarker will blink out of sequence with the corner signal. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/IMG] However, the turn signal will NOT work if the parking lights are off.
(This is the easiest way to get the sides to blink out of sequence)

What you need:
(2) Sidemarkers
(2) SPDT Relays (Single Pole Double Throw)
(6) Wire Tappers
various lengths of wire, crimp on connectors, electrical tape, misc wiring supplies.

SPDT Relay
There are 5 contacts on the relay, they each have a number.
30 - Common
85 - Coil
86 - Coil
87 - Normally Open (N/O)
87a - Normally Closed (N/C)

There will be 5 different wire leads to deal with (3 of which are tapped into the existing wire harness)
Parking Lights (+)
Turn Signal (+)
Parking/Turn Ground (-)
Sidemarker (+)
Sidemarker (-)

And here are the connections:
30 - Parking Lights (+)
85 - Turn Signal (+)
86 - Parking/Turn Ground (-) AND Sidemarker (-)
87 - No connection
87a - Sidemarker (+)

Enjoy! [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]

 
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I'm not sure if I am reading the diagram on your link correctly... but could this work?
Have a constant power sorce... and then make it so when N/O is active N/C is off. and when you flip a switch N/C is active and N/O is off?
would that be possible? or I am just not under standing.... basicly I have 2 lights, one blue and one white... and I want to set it up so when the white one is on the blue one is off. and at the flip of a switch the blue one will turn on and the white one will turn off.......


-Michael
thanks for the info/ idea.

 
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The power to the sidemarker is coming from the parking lights. When the turn signal bulb is on, the relay kills power to the sidemarker, making it blink out of sequence.

So yea, you are right.
Coil not energized = N/C on, N/O off
Coil energized = N/C off, N/O on

 
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Thanks for the usefull information.

 
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Sweet, thanks for the info and help rod.
been trying to figure out what kind of switch would work... I am in the process of making angel eye projectors that will be both blue and white... (white for being legal) and blue to look nice =)
just needed to figure out how to get one to be on and one to be off =)
-Michael

 
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So wait, i'm confused.

If i do this setup, will my blinkers still work if my lights are not on? But if the lights arent on, the sidemarkers wont blink...Am i right?

 
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The corners will still function if the parking lights are off. It's only the sidemarkers that won't work if the parking lights are off.

 
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Question answered.

 
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If you connect a constant 12V source to terminal 30, it will work in the same fashion if the parking lights are on or OFF! [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]

 
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True, but then the sidemarkers would be on when the parking lights are off. (Or on all the time if the 12V constant isn't switched to the ignition).

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I was looking at your DIY and it very good. I just have one question for you though. Is there anything that runs a current during the entire time the signal is in the left/right position (during the blinking)? If so, couldn't we connect that to 30 as well? That way the sidemarkers will blink in reverse even when the parking lights are on, right? There must be something that runs a current during the entire time the signal lights are blinking.

 
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Yeah, there has to be. It could be found by following phong's hyperblinker DIY and experimenting with the three inputs/outputs of the blinker relay. One of those has to be either a positive or negative trigger (in the case of negative trigger, you would connect pin 86, instead of 30 for a positive trigger) that turns on when you flip the blinker switch. I just ordered some sidemarkers, so I'll be playing around with this sometime in the near future (next couple of weeks), but thought I would give you the heads up. Just get down there at the fuse box, and test each of the three leads for a change between the turn signal off and on positions. You're bound to find something interesting.

 
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I originally wanted to tap into the wires going into the blinker relay. One of them is most likely the "turn signal on" wire. I was just too lazy and I didn't want to run wires from under the steering column to the engine compartment. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/IMG]

 
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been there, done that...my sidemarkers still works though. all i did was some wire tappin with the corner lights. the + wire from the corners are tapped into the - of the sidemarker...as far as i know, i already forgot. i'll check on it again. same thing happens, when the park lights are on the sidemarkers are too, when signaling the corners are lit and the sidemarkers are off and vice versa[IMG]i/expressions/beer_yum.gif[/IMG]

 
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Okay the sidemarker has two wires coming off it. Tap one to the green signal wire, and the other one to the red signal wire. That's it. You will get this result:

1) sidemarkers are on when parking lights are on.

2) sidemarkers blink in sequence with turn signal when parking lights are off.

3) sidemarkers blink out of sequence when parking lights are on AND signal is used.