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Old Jul 25, 2002
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EVERYONE READ- ABOUT INTAKES *IMPORTANT*

OK here's the story- I'm driving to work the other day and I notice my CHECK ENGINE light is on. It's never been on before so I'm kind of worried. I get to work and check under the hood, all belts and sensors seem fine, gas cap was tight, the car was running perfect, so WTF? I call Honda and they say to come in on Friday. Now, I have an Injen SRI and an OBX Upper Strut Bar so I figure I should take them out before going into Honda. Last night I take them both out and put the stock air box back in, start the car, CHECK ENGINE light is still on. Fine I think, I wasn't expecting it to turn off. So my roomate comes home and suggests I reset the ECU. I dissconnect the battery for 5 mins, start the car, and viola! The CHECK ENGINE light is off! OK- so now I take the car for a spin to make sure everything is fine and dandy. Now I've had the Injen SRI for about 1 year so I'm very used to it. This was my first ride with the stock airbox in a long time, and, OMG MY CAR IS FASTER WITHOUT THE INTAKE!! The pickup was was quicker and a smoother climb through the power band. I couldn't believe it! Now, I need someone to help me out here- I need someone with prefferably an Injen SRI, but ANY intake will do. You need to have had it for at least 6 months installed in your car. Take an hour, remove the intake and put the stock airbox back in, tell me what happens. My intake is definitely dirty so I'm gonna "recharge it", but I'm not putting it back in for a while, I'm liking the stock air box! It's not as loud, but much deeper sounding and lets out less motor noise than the Injen. So what's the deal here people? Any explanations? Is anyone gonna help me in my experiment?
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I think there was a thread posted before saying how a SRI makes you loose power because it sucks in hot air, get a cold air!

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I hope my Injen CAI doesn't reduce power...
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Yes... yo're right DarkCivic! But the shiny tube looks sooo cool!!!!!! hehehe...[IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]

No offense in those with CAI or even SRI, but it is really a "show item"
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ok... i dont get it? [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG] if i want my civic to be faster i SHOULDN'T get an intake?? i should keep on the stock airbox? i thought the whole point of intakes were to INCREASE performance?
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dark, if you dont want it, i'll buy it off you [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG] i'm in socal too so theres no need for shipping
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ok... i dont get it? [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG] if i want my civic to be faster i SHOULDN'T get an intake?? i should keep on the stock airbox? i thought the whole point of intakes were to INCREASE performance?[hr]
There are some disadvantages of the intake sometimes, for instance Short Rams lose horsepower in the beginning because they are sucking hot air or something, but after 3000 rpm i think all intakes gain power over stock. Go Injen Cold Air!
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Before I had the Injen SRI I had an AEM CAI and noticed no difference beween the 2 performance wise. Is someone else gonna try this for me? We could be disspelling a huge myth here. Anyone know if K&N makes a drop in air filter yet?


Vnlilman- If I do sell it, which I very well may, you'll be the first I go to. I should know in a week- where are you in Socal? How much would you pay?

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just wait till you put the stock steel rims back on, that will really give you a kick in the pants!
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K&N drop in filter should be out. You guys know the benefits of the short ram and CAI, right? The CAI will give you the low end torque and keep the mid to high end torque. The short ram will keep the stock low end and will boost the high end torque. I talk in torque only b/c the derivative of torque is horsepower. Short ram for highway power and CAI for street driving. Simple as that. You might want to clean the air filter. It helps a lot.
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dirt in the filter can slow you down, but the stock is quieter and easier to hear the radio, i'd keep the stock one on [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/IMG]
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I find it hard to believe with the stock intake making your car faster. I installed my AEM CAI and well, I noticed a gain but I drove a stock civic aswell just to make sure. My car hauls a lot more with the CAI on than the stock air box! I had the side-side comparison more than once and I must say the intake makes it faster. I only had experience with AEM not Injen though.
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The check engine light....
They guy at my dealer told me if the gas cap was not on tight then it would trip the check engine light. You have to make sure the gas cap clicks 3 or more times so it seals the tank. Otherwise the light will come on, but you won't find a problem anywhere and you will have to reset the ECU. you may want to check your gas cap.....
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[hr]They guy at my dealer told me if the gas cap was not on tight then it would trip the check engine light.[hr]
That is printed on the gas cap....

About the intakes: all I can add to this is that I had my stock intake for about 2 or 3 months, had Injen SRI for about 3 months or so, and now I have AEM CAI, and each time I felt an impovment; meaning that those two particular aftermarket intakes provided an incerease in power throughout the poweband.
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I just want to make sure I'm in the right page as every body else. The CAI or SRI intakes only improve performance on a 5-Speed, not on the auto (on the auto, aftermarket intakes hurt performance??). RIght???
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wrong, intakes are an ENGINE modification, they have no knowledge of transmissions and improve crank hp the same amount.
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You all should be Auto Techs. Just think you can feel 4 HP!!!! There will only be a difference is site and sound.
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a SRI will make your car feel like sh*t.....youre sucking in hot air, the stock air bow is sealed and the opening is located were it is for a reason, honda didn't just think, hey lets extend this tube as far from the engine as possible cause it looks cool, thats were the pipe can suck in ambient air, you loose 1hp for every 7 degree increase in intake air temp., so if the stock air box is pulling in somwhere around the outside air temp of lets say 80 degrees, while your sri is pulling in 130 degree air comming in off of your engine, well you do the math.....anyways this has been discussed a million times, so i should probobly shut up now, oh yeah, K&N has not released a filter for our cars yet (a$$holes), but they are working on it, the real problem in terms of performance (with mild mods) is the filter.....wait for a drop-in, or if it makes sense depending on were you live, buy a cai........
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Phillippi an Boilermaker- did you even read what I wrote?
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[hr]I get to work and check under the hood, all belts and sensors seem fine, GAS CAP WAS TIGHT, the car was running perfect, [hr]
1973- Exactly. Thank you.
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You all should be Auto Techs. Just think you can feel 4 HP!!!! There will only be a difference is site and sound.[hr]
Really? Is there any noticable difference when your VTEC kicks in? How much of a horsepower gain is that?Funny, I felt what 4HP is before. My lawn mower has a 4HP engine on it. Oh wait, ever raced karts before? So, you're telling me that steeping up from a 5HP to a 9HP is not a night and day difference? Or, how about riding a 125CC dirtbike and a 250CC dirtbike? I am tired of people saying that you can't feel a small power gain at all!
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wrong, intakes are an ENGINE modification, they have no knowledge of transmissions and improve crank hp the same amount.[hr]
not sure how it is but both AEM and INJEN found different gains between the auto and 5 speed.
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my injen race division cai doesnt reduce power or anything! you wont notice much from an sri anyways. if you want performace buy the cai. Your car will do better w./o your sri cause it is setup for an intake similar to that one. therefore better performance, the only true way to get performance from an intake is buy a cai.
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Really? Is there any noticable difference when your VTEC kicks in? How much of a horsepower gain is that?Funny, I felt what 4HP is before. My lawn mower has a 4HP engine on it. Oh wait, ever raced karts before? So, you're telling me that steeping up from a 5HP to a 9HP is not a night and day difference? Or, how about riding a 125CC dirtbike and a 250CC dirtbike? I am tired of people saying that you can't feel a small power gain at all![hr]
i'm not taking sides here but its easier to tell from 5 hp to 9 hp then from 995 hp to 1000. so ya using that wouldnt be to logical... not sure if you could actually feel from 115 to 120 tho but i think alot of it has to do with your mind thinking that your getting more power.

and your comment "You know what, try this out: Take the ink cartridge from a BIC pen and shove it up you a$$. Now, that is less than 4% of your overall diameter there. Try and tell me you can't feel." was out of line here... lets be adults here and have a debate with no comment such as those.
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I'm going to pull my Injen SRI off this weekend. The temps are close to 100 now and I can feel the loss in power. The car is very sluggish. As far as feeling 4 hp. I used to race carts also. You can feel the difference between 5 hp and 8 hp because you are increasing the power by 60%. You cannot tell the difference between 110 ( I think our measured HP) and 114 which is only about 3.5% increase in power. It's all mental.
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Cool BAK- be sure to let me know the results.
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See the reason I'm asking if aftermarket intakes do any good in a auto is because I have one. Now with AEM CAI the Car lost hp (If i'm not mistaken), I don't know the results of the injen CAI. any one has them?
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The AEM CAI won't fit on an auto. The Injen CAI will. I believe the autos had better results with SRI's.
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[hr]Originally posted by: 01Ex
You all should be Auto Techs. Just think you can feel 4 HP!!!! There will only be a difference is site and sound.[hr]
You know what, try this out: Take the ink cartridge from a BIC pen and shove it up you a$$. Now, that is less than 4% of your overall diameter there. Try and tell me you can't feel.[hr]
01ex is right. your intake doesnt have superpowers. its just like an exhaust system on an NA engine - its there for looks and sound.
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THIS IS NOT TRUE!! THE AUTOS DID NOT DO BETTER WITH THE SRI! BUY THE CAI I AM TELLIN YA
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MODS PLEASE DON'T LOCK THIS TOPIC!!!! IF YOU CAN REMOVE THESE POSTS OF PEPOLE STARTING FLAMING PLEASE DO! I FEEL THIS IS AN IMPORTANT TOPIC!
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