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I'm not sure if this is considered "riding the clutch" but I like to coast alot in neutral (coming to a stop, slowly deaccelerating, etc) except that I don't bother shifting into neutal, I just keep the clutch down so that the tranny's not engaged. Will this wear out components of the clutch assembly such as the throw out bearing? Is anything in the tranny even moving at this point?? Anyone know?

 
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no, its not hurting anything.

 
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yes it wears down the clutch. shift to neutral and keep your foot off the clutch.

 
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in no way does it harm the clutch.....as long as you are holding it all the way to the floor......there is only a SLIGHT chance that your clutch could get burned up if it was out of adjustment and pushing the pedal to the floor wasnt fully disengaging the clutch, but since your car is pratically new, that chance is so remote.........

but i must ask, why do you like to coast? allowing the engine to do the braking for you saves your breaks a TON of wear, and is one of the major pluses to having a manual transmission, leave it in gear, and lightly use the brakes, you will notice that you dont have to use your brakes as much, and they will last a lot longer

also.....for the ppl who like to get up to speed, and then coast, that will actually decrease your gas mileage! the engine has to work harder actually getting you up to speed as oposed to reaching a speed and staying there, that is why when you use the cruise control, gasmileage is greatly improved

ok, l8a!

peace

 
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nicely worded.... good job honda

 
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The reason I like to coast (when I'm being cheap) is because it actually saves gas. If you know you're going to be using the brake at some point in front of you, coasting allows you to more or less keep up to speed without slowing down too much. Or if you're like going down a hill and are like 10km above the speed limit with a bunch of cops around, you don't exactly want to go any faster, but you don't exactly want to start slowing down either, hence coast. If you use the engine to break you usually end up stopping or slowing down too soon ahead of time and then hitting the gas again to reach the point you were suppose to stop at. Anyways, it also makes for a smoother ride if you don't need to change gears but are on and off the gas alot (i.e. 1st in rush hour traffic).

 
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driving in traffic is different from coasting w/ the clutch down, (in traffic you are moving then stopping, coasting is when your moving but at a constant speed)take the extra effort and shift into neutral cause your clutch will have a longer life span--- in the end it comes to your decision in what you want to do

 
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i hope that you do realize that the amount of gas you are saving by coasting in a honda will not compare to the cost of brake pads [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/IMG]

 
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If you're coming to a stop anyways what does it matter. Your're going to end up using the brake anyway. Coasting will just allow you to you to scrub off a little bit of speed before applying the brake. In terms of engine breaking, even though it's fun when you have nothing better else to do in the car, it wears away on your clutch disk. I'm sure I can extend the life of my brake pads by doing this but not at the expense of my clutch disk. Replacing brakes pads is chump change in comparison to replacing the clutch disk.

 
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leaving the car in gear, and allowing the car to come to idle, while the tranny is still engaged, does NOT harm the clutch in any way shape or form, this is what i am trying to explain to you......USE the engine to help slow you down, instead of applying extra braking force!

disengaging the clutch to coast would in theory place MORE wear on the clutch, not the disc itself, but perhaps the throwout bearing and things of that nature!

and like i said earlier, the gas you would save by coasting is not even measurable!

and now that i think about it....ok, say you are coming up to a light, and you decide to coast, so you push in the clutch and are free rolling, now you get near that light and you dont have to come to a complete stop, that means you have to re-engage the clutch

now, if you were to leave the car in gear as approaching the light, the engine will naturally slow the car down, or w/ the use of light braking, as the light turns green you do not need to re-engage the clutch, saving the wear that could be possible the other way

honestly......its up to you man, everyone has their own way of driving......what you are doing does not really hurt the clutch, i just cant stand when people drive an manual transmission, yet make the car function like it has an automatic(no engine braking)

peace

 
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Any time that you do this, you are doing no more wear to the clutch than you do every time you shift into a different gear. holding the clutch all the way in is essentially the same thing as putting your car in neutral; i.e: your wheels and engine are completely disconnected.

 
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<< If you're coming to a stop anyways what does it matter. Your're going to end up using the brake anyway. Coasting will just allow you to you to scrub off a little bit of speed before applying the brake. In terms of engine breaking, even though it's fun when you have nothing better else to do in the car, it wears away on your clutch disk. I'm sure I can extend the life of my brake pads by doing this but not at the expense of my clutch disk. Replacing brakes pads is chump change in comparison to replacing the clutch disk. >>



Deja-vu. Agreed. Engine braking is hard on engine, clutch, and tranny components. Why not put the wear on something that is made to stop the car, rather than on an expensive clutch plate.

 
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Hehe I completely agree DxMaN, I've said the same thing in about 5 different threads so far, no one seems to listen, PUT THE WEAR ON THE CHEAPER COMPONENTS! lol.

 
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<< and like i said earlier, the gas you would save by coasting is not even measurable! >>



sorry, but i have to say youre wrong on this one. i coast all the time when i can keep the same speed or really close in neutral (which is more often than you might think if you havent tried it) or any time im going to have to stop anyway, and i get 39 to 41.5mpg from my 5-speed 2k2 ex coupe. i did the same thing in my 88 dodge omni and i got 33-35mpg from it (rated 25 city/32 highway). you definitely save gas by getting off the gas pedal [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]

 
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When you keep the clutch ENGAGED(all the way to the floor) and coast, YES it does wear out your Clutch Bearings,...... ITs not "COMPLETELY FINE".....but it wont hurt anything......and I dont agree w/ coasting,....but anyway.....I was just posting to say "yes" it does do something to the clutch by having it engaged,.
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um, its a good thing i bothered to wake up today...

COASTING IN GEAR WITH YOUR FOOT ON THE CLUTCH IS NOT GOOD FOR YOUR CAR

*cough* screaming *cough*

when your transmission is in gear, the car is rolling, and your clutch is disengaged, the transmission is still spinning. The clutch is riding the throwout bearing. this will cause premature wear

edit : coasting with the clutch engaged is fine, great, a ... i do it all the time... but downshifting and using the clutch to slow the car is plain dumb. i can swap brake pads much faster than a clutch


edit 2: Engaged = foot off pedal, clutch gripping
Disengaged = foot on pedal, clutch "disengaged" from flywheel

edit 3: what an arsehole i am.... Coasting with the foot OFF the gas and letting the engine compression naturally slow the car is not hurting anything. Why? Why you ask? because when the piston fires *KABOOM* it sends its power through the connecting rod, to the crankshaft, out to the tranny, through the axels, and to the wheels. these parts are nice and tough... they dont care what drives them, either the piston or the wheel spinning on the ground

edit 4: here i'll even flame myself



im such a ****

 
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<< edit 2: Engaged = foot off pedal, clutch gripping >>



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For the record.........don't keep the clutch pushed to the floor all the time[IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]

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Well, I guess that answers my question. Thanks y'all. Guess I'll actually have to do it the hard way and actually shift into neutral[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/IMG]