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Old 08-22-2005
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ok so my tranny was gone so I replaced with another ex tranny or so I was told. I just broke it in and got to redline it today and gears seem longer. I have an 01 honda civic ex coupe and the guy i bought the tranny from said it was from an 02 ex, the reason why the ex gear ratios are short is so that you will be in vtec, my new tranny everytime i redline, i get out of vtec, so thats how i know somethings wrong.
Or could it be that honda has changed the ratios in 01 and 02? i mean the tranny i bought works fine no problems at all, only thing is that third goes up to 90 mph before with my torn up tranny, my third only went up to 80.
this is a good thing if I was turbod so ill have longer ratios in a gear but since i am back to stock it is very very bad...... any opinions will help, thank you.
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02 is the same.

you might have an lx/dx tranny. if your 4th redlines at 115-120 mph, then you have that .. if your 4th redlines at 110, it's an ex tranny.
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well at least it works right?
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it works great but it is not a good combo for n/a, this ****ing pisses me off cause the guy i bought it from is a good friend of mine and now hes nowhere to be found.
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ill try redlining 4th later, but whats the disadvantages of using a lx tranny, just that i dont go in vtec when redlining gears?
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im going to check the vin number to make sure, but for some reason i cant find the vin anymore, is it possible to check the vin from above the car or do u have lift it?
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Originally Posted by aznboysrfr
02 is the same.

you might have an lx/dx tranny. if your 4th redlines at 115-120 mph, then you have that .. if your 4th redlines at 110, it's an ex tranny.

i doubt that the tranny redlines at 110 cause earlier i was redlining 3rd and it went up to 90+ so im sure 4th will redline at 120+ dammmit!
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Originally Posted by Civic_RedLine
ill try redlining 4th later, but whats the disadvantages of using a lx tranny, just that i dont go in vtec when redlining gears?

U get about 1mpg worse in the city and 1mpg better on the highway. And it wont accel as fast. That "friend" is pretty shady to b pullin that kinda **** on u. <------------ Do it. Do it
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Maybe you can swap the diff, if i'm not mistaken the dx/lx was 4.25 or 4.11 and the ex was 4.40...don't remember that well, since mine is 2001 and it's been a while since i read that. you might wanna check with other guys...maybe your old diff still good...
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DX/LX Gear Ratio is 4.111, HX 3.842, EX/SI 4.411 according to the FSM! Good memory anibal!!
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Originally Posted by Kyle23
U get about 1mpg worse in the city and 1mpg better on the highway. And it wont accel as fast. That "friend" is pretty shady to b pullin that kinda **** on u. <------------ Do it. Do it
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How can you tell when your in vtec?
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Yeah thats what i was wondering, i do not understand what he means by going out of vtec
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Originally Posted by Civic_RedLine
i doubt that the tranny redlines at 110 cause earlier i was redlining 3rd and it went up to 90+ so im sure 4th will redline at 120+ dammmit!
well ... my tranny redlines at 110 and I have an ex. I've seen an LX and DX that redline around or above 115, where they hit the governor in 4th ... but I can't get that high in 4th.

My 3rd redlines right around 87-ish.

90+?? ... maybe you got an HX tranny
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so whats the difference, my car wont accelerate as fast>? and why is this? so im actually losing power from this swap? also lx tarnny has longer gear ratio cuz when im cruising on 5th i still got lots more to go compared to my ex tranny which didnt let me go that high.
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Originally Posted by Civic_RedLine
so whats the difference, my car wont accelerate as fast>? and why is this? so im actually losing power from this swap? also lx tarnny has longer gear ratio cuz when im cruising on 5th i still got lots more to go compared to my ex tranny which didnt let me go that high.
your car accelerates slower. think about gears on a bicycle.

slightly better gas milage though
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i have an 04 civic dx and my 1st reds @ 30, 2nd a@ 60, 3rd @ 90 and 4th dubs out @ the gov. at little over 110...thats my info
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actually it might accelerate slower but top end should be the same, cuz the gears are longer no? i gonna check for sure which model the tranny came from.
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all the gears will accelerate slightly slower ... more so 4th and 5th. again, think of a bicycle. It takes a lot more torque to try to spin a larger gear vs. a smaller gear.
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what if i was turbod, would it be slightly better?
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if you ran normal boost (8-ish), I think the shorter final drive is fine ... but if you're running higher boost, longer gears would be nice since traction is your friend.

when I was running 7 psi on my turbo, I had run dead even with an e46 M3, a FEW sti's and a modded srt4, all from a roll... I'm not sure if having a longer final drive would've changed that. I never really broke my tires loose with the final drive, so I think my EX final drive worked out great
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