The second someone releases a D17A1 cam
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The second someone releases a D17A1 cam
Like the title says - the second that a CAM becomes avaliable from either Crower/Skunk2/Exospeed or someone - EMAIL Me!!!!
I'm going crazy - I need to make more power!! Turbo to expensive - Nitrous refills bloody expensive were I am.
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I'm going crazy - I need to make more power!! Turbo to expensive - Nitrous refills bloody expensive were I am.
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Sorry I didn't read your sig..Yes, I've been on the site for that long, but I don't spend every freakin' second on my computer....I was just trying to help and if you would have searched and read a little bit more about the cam intead of being a *****, there has been alot of discussion about it being available ONLY for the D17a2 vtec engines...As far as I know there has not been any plans for development for the non-vtec engines, but what do I know, I only have 1000 posts
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Originally Posted by Tomola
Ummm............ D17A1 eg. (NON-VTEC) Motor - you've been on this site for 4 years and nearly 1000 posts......
Honda these day=all ready tuned
Turbo or swap is really the only wise choice IMO, cause if you do all engine you are looking at less than 150whp, and spending more than a turbo costs, and losing low rev power, alot of it. Also if you get to 150whp with N/A d17 you deserve a trophy.
Oh yeah nitrous as well, but that power is limited, still gives you good bang for buck though.
Still i was thinking of getting nitrous but that is $5-600 could have saved toward turbo, not to mention intake for nitrous, which would be another 100 for a good one.
Turbo or swap is really the only wise choice IMO, cause if you do all engine you are looking at less than 150whp, and spending more than a turbo costs, and losing low rev power, alot of it. Also if you get to 150whp with N/A d17 you deserve a trophy.
Oh yeah nitrous as well, but that power is limited, still gives you good bang for buck though.
Still i was thinking of getting nitrous but that is $5-600 could have saved toward turbo, not to mention intake for nitrous, which would be another 100 for a good one.
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Rep Power: 0 Im calling bullshit on 110 WHP on a non vtec with exhuast, header and intake. Head swap, port polish the new head, machine the head, and then get the cam kit thats already out and then your done. and then maybe your at 125 WHP but there is no way in hell your at 110 WHP with you car right now man
actually he said 110 with IHE and SAFC2 .. I wouldn't think thats too far off.. IHE and a little fuel/air adjustment and get about 14-15 at the wheels? If I were you I would hook up with a VTEC head then get the Crower cam though ...
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Still i was thinking of getting nitrous but that is $5-600 could have saved toward turbo, not to mention intake for nitrous, which would be another 100 for a good one.
^That is why i asked if dynoed, smells of sh#t, sniff sniff, you smell it, smells like some guesswork. 10-15 hp with only bolt ons, maybe with tunning, maybe, even so he has lx, so something just does'nt sit right in my gut.
I could be wrong though.
I could be wrong though.
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Originally Posted by Jeffsta17
Im calling bullshit on 110 WHP on a non vtec with exhuast, header and intake. Head swap, port polish the new head, machine the head, and then get the cam kit thats already out and then your done. and then maybe your at 125 WHP but there is no way in hell your at 110 WHP with you car right now man
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Rep Power: 0 Yeah I can show you a Dyno - 2 secs it's up on another post i'll need to find it.
The D17A1 motor will yield much better gains than the crappy A2 VTEC-E, and that's not the only reason i'm not going for the head swap. The other reason is that an A2 head costs around $700 US here in Oz + I've also spent 3 months trying to get one shipped from the US but that's bloody impossible!!! Just about no one wants to do it!
Crower cams are very good but for the money to get a stage 2 just for around 14-18 WHP is not worth it at all.
So actually over the past few months I've been doing quite alot to research into FI - Turbo. As Nitrous is also expensive $80 a 10lb refill and I would be going through 2 bottles week
The D17A1 motor will yield much better gains than the crappy A2 VTEC-E, and that's not the only reason i'm not going for the head swap. The other reason is that an A2 head costs around $700 US here in Oz + I've also spent 3 months trying to get one shipped from the US but that's bloody impossible!!! Just about no one wants to do it!
Crower cams are very good but for the money to get a stage 2 just for around 14-18 WHP is not worth it at all.
So actually over the past few months I've been doing quite alot to research into FI - Turbo. As Nitrous is also expensive $80 a 10lb refill and I would be going through 2 bottles week
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Rep Power: 0 Found it. Ok so 77.8 Kw x 1.34 = 104.2 WHP. Now that was with a new motor done less than 1k back in March, on a hot 34 Degree Day in the middle of Summer at 2:00pm 
Now that everythings been borken in + with the headers, clutch and lightened stock fly wheel I have not had it dyno tuned but I know there's over 110 WHP
Any way what are we talking about 104 -110 -120 even 130 or 140 WHP thats fu(k all!!! Thats' why i'm looking into getting a TURBO KIT!
All I wanted was for someone to notify me when/if a cam comes out for the A1 But no we had to go through 2 pages of Bullsh!t!!! But now that we are back on track can someone explain why the Torque Figures are so retarded?
Now that everythings been borken in + with the headers, clutch and lightened stock fly wheel I have not had it dyno tuned but I know there's over 110 WHP
Any way what are we talking about 104 -110 -120 even 130 or 140 WHP thats fu(k all!!! Thats' why i'm looking into getting a TURBO KIT!
All I wanted was for someone to notify me when/if a cam comes out for the A1 But no we had to go through 2 pages of Bullsh!t!!! But now that we are back on track can someone explain why the Torque Figures are so retarded? Last edited by Tomola; Aug 5, 2005 at 09:07 AM.
That is guesswork.
Turbo is the only hope for d17, and dezod is the man for that!!!!
Better gains from a1 than a2, but does that mean more or less overall???
Turbo is the only hope for d17, and dezod is the man for that!!!!
Better gains from a1 than a2, but does that mean more or less overall???
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Originally Posted by jackburton
That is guesswork.
Turbo is the only hope for d17, and dezod is the man for that!!!!
Better gains from a1 than a2, but does that mean more or less overall???
Turbo is the only hope for d17, and dezod is the man for that!!!!
Better gains from a1 than a2, but does that mean more or less overall???
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Rep Power: 0 i know this is in wrong section but this is one of the only threads open activley talking about heads, im planning on turboing my Lx but i want to swap it with an ex head, so i can use crowers springs and cam.
i can use emanage to engage vtech AND not have to get a ex ecu? right. im a lil confoozed, im pretty noobish to cars. so i need Ex head/headgasket/cams/springs retainers/ ARP studs and that pretty much covers top end right? also how much do u thing a shop would charge to install all of that? (god i wish i had time to learn how to work on my car.!!) sorry for misplaced post but i jumped at the sight of head swap talk.
i can use emanage to engage vtech AND not have to get a ex ecu? right. im a lil confoozed, im pretty noobish to cars. so i need Ex head/headgasket/cams/springs retainers/ ARP studs and that pretty much covers top end right? also how much do u thing a shop would charge to install all of that? (god i wish i had time to learn how to work on my car.!!) sorry for misplaced post but i jumped at the sight of head swap talk.
^^^ First off Vtech is a phone. The one thats on our cars is Vtec. But anyways you can use the emanage to control vtec. http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=169411
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Originally Posted by jackburton
Honda these day=all ready tuned
Turbo or swap is really the only wise choice IMO, cause if you do all engine you are looking at less than 150whp, and spending more than a turbo costs, and losing low rev power, alot of it. Also if you get to 150whp with N/A d17 you deserve a trophy.
Oh yeah nitrous as well, but that power is limited, still gives you good bang for buck though.
Still i was thinking of getting nitrous but that is $5-600 could have saved toward turbo, not to mention intake for nitrous, which would be another 100 for a good one.
Turbo or swap is really the only wise choice IMO, cause if you do all engine you are looking at less than 150whp, and spending more than a turbo costs, and losing low rev power, alot of it. Also if you get to 150whp with N/A d17 you deserve a trophy.
Oh yeah nitrous as well, but that power is limited, still gives you good bang for buck though.
Still i was thinking of getting nitrous but that is $5-600 could have saved toward turbo, not to mention intake for nitrous, which would be another 100 for a good one.
Cam tunning usually take away low rpm power, and move it to high rpm power, so you are slower when putzen around, but faster at higher rpms. It is basic N/A tunning. I did not mean adding cams lessens low end pwer but if tuned correctly it kinda should. a turbo has lag to it, so both have their downsides.
Do you know how much money it would take to get a N/A d17 to 150whp???
It was a joke, would you like a trophy, cause i can get you one???
^^I usually ask questions like that knowing the answer, of course a2 has better overall gain, better potential, thats why your statement is lame.
Do you know how much money it would take to get a N/A d17 to 150whp???
It was a joke, would you like a trophy, cause i can get you one???
^^I usually ask questions like that knowing the answer, of course a2 has better overall gain, better potential, thats why your statement is lame.
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