silverdevil

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When changing the oil, the Honda "Bible" says to change the washer on the drain plug everytime you change your oil. How important is it to do that? I've changed oil so many times I couldn't count that high and never changed one of those washers. Of course, I never did it on a 2k2 Civic either. Thanx for the advice.

1973

the washer should be changed everytime....its a very weak metal that compresses when you tighten the screw, obviously it can only be compressed once, so if you use it again it may not seal properly and you could start leaking........

silverdevil

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That's weak...

Jc20unc

i have changed oil twice and same washer is still holding it in...no leakage

Daniel420

good for you! you saved $.35 and you're risking an oil leak... Personally, i can spring for the thirty-five cents to prevent the oil leak but hey... it's only my car.

01CivicMike

If you go to the dealer and buy like 10, they go for about $1.50. A new engine is like $4,000!!!

Mike

tsunamisplash

<< If you go to the dealer and buy like 10, they go for about $1.50. A new engine is like $4,000!!!

Mike >>



i think you are going a little too far.. oil leaking from your car is NOT gonna kill your engine. leaving it without oil.. WILL. as long as all the engines internals are properly lubricated at all times, you have no worries.

i mean sure, it's a good idea to change the washer, but not changing it on each oil change is not gonna kill your engine!

CivicMonkey

Well it is always better to be safe then sorry

Jimmy24

Well, I 've done so many oil changes in my life and I 've never changed anything but oil and filter.
By the way, I know they don't change them in the dealer unless is bad!

Ronin

It's called a "crush washer", and a proper oil change on our cars should always include installation of a new washer to ensure proper sealing of the plug. It's listed somewhere in our manuals or on the Honda Owner's Link site. As with everything else in our manuals, it's entirely up to you whether or not you want to follow their instructions (just to save a few pennies).

If the dealer is not doing it, either they don't know what they're doing, they just don't care, or they're trying to save 10 cents on every oil change they do.

CivicMonkey

Yah just got back from da dealership and picked up two washers for a buck. The guy said it was really important to change the washer every oil change. And Honda changes it all the time. Thats why the keep a big drawer full of them in the shop

azn_knight4874

what is size of crush washer?

some on here say 14mm and I found some that say it is 17 mm. I have a 2003 Civic.

my bro just got a bunch on 14mm for his accord and integra.

thanks in advanced...

beadebaserr

iTrader: (7)

go to napa or really any auto parts store, get an M14 aluminum washer. I bought 5 at napa for under a dollar.

Civic_Racer9

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my car has 70k on it /w the same bolt/washer...no leak

Honda2k4

everyone is going to tell you to replace it everytime you do an oil change mainly because the washers are pretty cheap,

speedricerx

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havent changed my washer.. no problems but i guess i'll change it next time. so is it 14mm?

rice4lyfe

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jeez, just change the damn washer.

Its there for a reason, why would they put a washer in the first place if you didnt need to use it?

D5cIvIc

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^^they are debating whether to change the washer or not to change the washer.

No one here is saying "they don't need a washer"

weirdo

speedfoos

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Think about all the aluminum trees that are being killed just because of the senseless changing of crush washers. It's not just about 10 cents, think of the environment. Every day is Earth Day. Do the world a favor and plant an aluminum tree.

rice4lyfe

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^^
well pretty much if you crush the washer once, its basically another piece of metal that doesnt do anything. if theres no purpose in the washer, then why use it?

speedfoos

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Put it in the ground, water it twice a week and wait for the new aluminum tree to grow. I haven't changed mine in 4 years. No leaks. Ever.