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Old 11-30-2003
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problem w/gauge light DIY

I'm trying to change my gauge lights to red. I've wrapped the light bulbs in the back of the cluster with red lens repair tape. Unfortunately, I get to smell burning plastic every time the lights are on. I really need to make this work. I've done the other dash lights with the same tape already, but not on the actual bulbs. Should I try condoms, and what kind will fit? I'm also worried about light not matching. This is really frustrating. Or maybe I should put condoms on everything? Then the light might be dim. I don't know!
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yea its the adhesive that you smell burning..

you have 2 options:

1. remove all tape and use condoms (dim or not, alot safer)
2. keep tape, let the adhesive burn to no more, then keep replacing the tape over and over again (to make it stick)

i say go with #1 and get some condoms, dont ask me where though..
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Thanks. The bulbs are smaller back there, so I'll do some searching. I'm gonna post a huge DIY when I finally get everything taken care of.
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you wouldnt happen to know if they are the small 194 bulbs do ya?
or they smaller??

cuz if they are the 194 style, why not just get some red ones from APC, Eurolite, etc. ??

just an idea..
but i dunno on the size though..
if you can just get a bulb #, im sure i can help find some replacement bulbs to make it quite easier..
lemme know PM or reply..
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you wouldnt happen to know if they are the small 194 bulbs do ya?
or they smaller??

cuz if they are the 194 style, why not just get some red ones from APC, Eurolite, etc. ??

just an idea..
but i dunno on the size though..
if you can just get a bulb #, im sure i can help find some replacement bulbs to make it quite easier..
lemme know PM or reply..
nah those lights doesnt use 168/194 bulbs.I had blue condoms. still dim. I didnt like how things turned out. I would do whole led swap..
http://www.k-series.com/tech_detail...._CON_LITE_SWAP
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The bulbs are quite smaller than 194s. Less than half the size, so I don't think there are colored replacements.

I'll try the condoms first and see how it looks. I wish I could retrofit some 194 lights in there, but the holes are too small.

Would it be possible to run a large power wire and tap five 194 bulbs off it? Are there 194 bulb holders with wiring? Then I could run the bulbs into the cluster from the top somehow. That would really be bright. Or do I need separate power wires for each bulb?
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Well first I'm gonna try the condoms, which I spend $20 on already! If that doesn't work, I'm gonna run a large power wire from the parking lights into the cluster and tap 5 of the 194 bulbs off it. I found holders and can get some cheap red bulbs at the store.

Does anyone know if I can tap 5 bulbs off one power wire without blowing up anything? And where can I tap the power wire from to get it to turn on with the lights? The wire going to the cluster is really small and I'm afraid the load may be too high.


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this may or may not help but the guy at www.99accord.com has completely converted every single dash light in his accord, including gauges lights. he has also done 7th generation civic too. i bought the kit and converted all my temp control lights to blue LED. I think he said that soon he will be doing the cruise control, sunroof, and mirror buttons, and hopefully eventually the dash lights too. you can buy the kit from his site or from ebay. he has the thermostat conversion in blue, red and white. if you wanna see how it looks: www.angelfire.com/sc2/cccyg/civic.htm
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I have done the same thing with my center console LED's (red). Covering the bulbs just takes away more light output. Don't forget to take out the little coloured filters behind each rotary control for the heater/a-c.
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yeah, actually i took out all the filters, it was just too dang dim for me. now it's great!
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My DIY from awhile back has the info. for the condoms/lamp covers if you need it still.
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if you are talking about the gauge face bulbs, they are #74 bulbs, u can buy those at www.autolumination.com there's a total of 16 of them on the back of ur cluster. As for the center console bulbs, I believe they are also the same #74 bulbs. 16 of them will run you about 17 dollars.
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No they are bigger than #74 on the gauge cluster. Those bulbs will be too small. I ordered some condoms, and hopefully they fit. My car is a mess right now and I'm still waiting on the new cluster.

I tried the 194 bulb idea and it's gonna be a huge pain to get them in there. Plus I don't think it will look good anyway. The only way is to do like Norrinradd and acetone the back of the gauge face.
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ok heres my suggestion. ive done this for my gauges and they turned out a great blue color. ive also done the blue dash leds too and there pretty close in color.

ok what i used is a light filter under the gauge face plate. its very simple and requires some sissors to do it. ive tried wrappin the bulbs and a few other tricks but it jsut didnt work out good. they cooked themselves onto the bulb

what im talking about is kinda like the color filters you put in front of a strobe light to change its color. but instead i went to micheals and bought a $1.30 see through clear plastic blue folder. ya know the transparent type. they i took my gauges out and proceded to trim them so that they would slide between the plastic material and the actual gauge face. it worked flawlessly. my needles are a brighter looking because the gauge is a nice bright blue. this is by far the easiest way i ahve found to do it. pm me if you want more info
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That's a nice idea, really great way to do it and very simple. Got any pics of how it turned out.

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ok heres my suggestion. ive done this for my gauges and they turned out a great blue color. ive also done the blue dash leds too and there pretty close in color.

ok what i used is a light filter under the gauge face plate. its very simple and requires some sissors to do it. ive tried wrappin the bulbs and a few other tricks but it jsut didnt work out good. they cooked themselves onto the bulb

what im talking about is kinda like the color filters you put in front of a strobe light to change its color. but instead i went to micheals and bought a $1.30 see through clear plastic blue folder. ya know the transparent type. they i took my gauges out and proceded to trim them so that they would slide between the plastic material and the actual gauge face. it worked flawlessly. my needles are a brighter looking because the gauge is a nice bright blue. this is by far the easiest way i ahve found to do it. pm me if you want more info
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Originally posted by stupidd
this may or may not help but the guy at www.99accord.com has completely converted every single dash light in his accord, including gauges lights. he has also done 7th generation civic too. i bought the kit and converted all my temp control lights to blue LED. I think he said that soon he will be doing the cruise control, sunroof, and mirror buttons, and hopefully eventually the dash lights too. you can buy the kit from his site or from ebay. he has the thermostat conversion in blue, red and white. if you wanna see how it looks: www.angelfire.com/sc2/cccyg/civic.htm
I am glad to see that you installed the kit and you like it! If any of you need LEDs for your dash, just let me know. I should have the kits for the buttons, etc.. soon.

stupidd: Is it possible to send me pics of the filters that you removed? I think it would be a great addition to the how-to guide. Also would you mind if I used your pic of the final installation? It is a very high quality pic! I will put on my website that the pic belongs to you, and even put a link to your website if you want.

Let me know.

If anyone has any questions, feel free to email me at Nate@99Accord.com
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oh man, that'd be great, the only thing is the defrost light went out, i think i might have jarred it. but i can definilty get you some good pictures of how i took out the filters and stuff, in fact, i could probably do that tonight
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Your help is greatly appreciated
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Alright, i emailed you the pictures.
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Thanks man! Looks really good! I will incorporate this into my how-to guide soon.

I will put a link to your website in the guide as well.

Thanks again!

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hey yeah ill try and get a pic of it soon. ill do a b4 and after pic. it supprizingly turned out really well.
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I've decided to just leave the lights amber. It's so much brighter than using condoms. I'll post pics when everything is done.
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if you want i've got a DIY for removing filters and making the lights brighter. right now it's only for the thermostat controls.
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Thanks. I removed all gels and cleared the cluster with acetone. Now I have true, bright amber light. This is the product of weeks of work. I'm really happy with it.

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very very nice. check this, i just finished my today too! mine is all blue though. and how did you get the blue needles?
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Yours looks very nice as well. I swapped my 02 face with an 01 and did most of the work from the 01 parts. I really like the black 01 face, so I didn't want indiglos or reverse gauges anymore. I have a sedan as well.

Blue needles would look really nice with your setup, but it's alot of work. Look for a DIY coming in an hour or so.
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awesome. i think i'd like to go with white needles if possible, i have a lot of blue and it'd make the needles a tad hard to see. but it'd still look good. but definitly gimme a holla when you finish up that DIY. by the way, i have an 01 coupe AT
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