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Auto Civic Performance HELP

Ok here we go.

This is my first time posting on here.
I got a 2k2 civic with the following mods:

buddy club kit w/ skyline sides
motegi mr7 white 17's wrapped in kuhmo tires
n1 muffler
tint/xenons/shaved emblems etc...

I got my car exterior basically lookin the way i want it to.

Now for performance, I got a Auto EX sohc vtec.

I wanted to get some mods for the engine.

I hate gettin completely blown out by integras and other 'teenage' cars.

i dont know much about engine stuff except some the basics, so , what do you guys
suggest i get to gimme a little boost. I wanna be able to hang w/ other cars cuz it sucks havin a car that looks tight but dont move ya know? Please gimme some advice. My budget is about 1,000 at the moment.

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well...to tell you the truth...ur stuck being slow. You'll need to get some sort of forced Induction (nitrous or turbo) or a engine swap (k20 or k24 ONLY). With only $1000, the minor bolt ons wont do squat. Nitrous is your only option with $1000, but its not a permanent power boost. Also, those Motegi MR7 rims are quite heavier than other rims, so they are slowing you down as well.
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you can also get a torque converter to hopefully improve some of your acceleration and to be able to handle more power later on.
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if you h8 getting blown on by integs, then get a faster car. an automatic civic wont get you anywhere unless you go FI. get a srt-4 LOL "Fastest car under 20k" lease:
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if you h8 getting blown on by integs, then get a faster car. an automatic civic wont get you anywhere unless you go FI. get a srt-4 LOL "Fastest car under 20k" lease:
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turbo or swap is the only way to go fast in our cars, start savin'...
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you can turbo your car and run on low boost but the auto traney will not last so best bet is to change the car to a 5 speed and the slap a turbo kit on and run it at low boost and get a 35 shot of nitrous to spool up the turbo then you stat puting the boltons on
or if you have the money and the right michanic to do a k20 swap the do that and later trubo

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you can turbo your car and run on low boost but the auto traney will not last so best bet is to change the car to a 5 speed and the slap a turbo kit on and run it at low boost and get a 35 shot of nitrous to spool up the turbo but the you will need lots of fule
not entirely true. no one knows the limit of the auto tranny yet on the D17. Even with a 5 speed, you can wreck the tranny. its all about knowing your limits and how smart you are in tuning your car.
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ok thanks for the input. i dont think ima get nitrious cuz itll fucc up my engine over time and 3,000 for turbo is way outta my league for now, but thanks for the input, ill probably get some small performance just for sound and stick with making it look nice if anything.
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haha, no hope with auto, even with a swap .. too much work and money. you'll be better off trading in for something better

or you can try headers, pulleys, port polishing, etc .. that'll convert some power.. but not much
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you can turbo your car and run on low boost but the auto traney will not last so best bet is to change the car to a 5 speed and the slap a turbo kit on and run it at low boost and get a 35 shot of nitrous to spool up the turbo then you stat puting the boltons on
or if you have the money and the right michanic to do a k20 swap the do that and later trubo
WTF? who told you this? there are people with autos running 7-8 psi daily around here w/out any tranny problems. you people under estimate AT's.
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tranny swap will be an ***, since not many people have played around with tranny swaps for the 7thgen
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pics of your car man
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as everyone has said before me forced induction or new car
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I plan on making my car have the basics of I/H/E and then try to make it looks nice. Other than that, trade it in for a better one later. Unless they make a Supercharger for the 7th gen but that ain't happening anytime soon or even at all.
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hey FLBrian ima post up pics soon, im gettin my front windshield tinted mirror tint today so ima get pics when its done.
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im post up pics soon, im tinting my windshield today so after that im post some up
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I say save the $1,000. If you get I/H/E you will be lucky if you get over 112 HP to the wheels. Like Cambo said the only way to make your car faster if to buy a turbo. You already have $1,000 so that meams that you only need $2,000 more. About the trany don't worry too much about if you take care of it and don't run mad boost it won't die on you, but if it stills bothers you, you can always get a trany oil cooler.
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Originally posted by fuRiousVIC
haha, no hope with auto, even with a swap .. too much work and money. you'll be better off trading in for something better

or you can try headers, pulleys, port polishing, etc .. that'll convert some power.. but not much
What are you talking about, man. If you do a swap you will have to swap the tranny any way for a K20a2, to a six speed tranny. People are so quick to judge an auto but to can get just as good a preformance output from an auto as you can a stick, if not better (no driver error). It is just going to cost a little bit more cash. (torque converter, tranny cooler, ect.). I want a stick myself, just because I think it would be fun to shift but that does not mean with a little more money I could not take on 5 speeders.
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How about trying a different type of racing?

I beat Integras and other such cars all the time. In fact I haven't been beaten by an SRT-4 yet(they are getting closer though, as the drivers get more experiance).

This is what I do for fun,

Autocross movie (My friends car)

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ok, so lemme get all this straight.....
If i bought a turbo for around 3,000 (shouldnt take me long to get that money) then my car would be better? I know it'll be better, but i mean how fast would it actually be, how much better would the hp acceeleration etc... be? How much would a trany oil cooler run me? would turbo run better with my stock engine or better if i got i/h/e too?
as you can prob tell i know nothin about this, but thats why im askin ya

thx for all the input.

also, if i got i/h/e now, how much hp, torque, etc.. would i gain?
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Originally posted by PeN8503
if i got i/h/e now, how much hp, torque, etc.. would i gain?
I have a auto and I have had i/h/e and you will probably gain 5 horses at the most.
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ok, so lemme get all this straight.....
If i bought a turbo for around 3,000 (shouldnt take me long to get that money) then my car would be better? I know it'll be better, but i mean how fast would it actually be, how much better would the hp acceeleration etc... be? How much would a trany oil cooler run me? would turbo run better with my stock engine or better if i got i/h/e too?
as you can prob tell i know nothin about this, but thats why im askin ya

thx for all the input.

also, if i got i/h/e now, how much hp, torque, etc.. would i gain?
dollar per HP wise, turbo would be a much better choice cuz its... I/H/E+$1000= 105WHP or Turbo+$3000= up to 180WHP or more depending on boost level.
turbo isnt anymore safe on a stick than an automatic, just run a good level of boost and a tranny cooler ($50) and a torque converter would also help acceleration.
you wont have your I/H with turbo, just get an exhaust, that will help some.
our cars usally run 16+ seconds (5spd), we have a couple people here with turbos that run 13's on basic engines...except the turbo of course
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dollar per HP wise, turbo would be a much better choice cuz its... I/H/E+$1000= 105WHP or Turbo+$3000= up to 180WHP or more depending on boost level.
turbo isnt anymore safe on a stick than an automatic, just run a good level of boost and a tranny cooler ($50) and a torque converter would also help acceleration.
you wont have your I/H with turbo, just get an exhaust, that will help some.
our cars usally run 16+ seconds (5spd), we have a couple people here with turbos that run 13's on basic engines...except the turbo of course
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nice, ok what do you mean when u say 'run a good level of boost?' and could you link me to 1 or 2 sites which sell everything id need to complete the job.
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he means that you cant keep your boost at high levels all the time. any engine no matter what kind, cant really handle that. if you keep it at a reasonable level like 7-8 psi, you should be ok. if you get exhaust, youre gonna need a turbo back exhaust, which is usually at least 3 inch piping. the bigger the piping the better, for turbo applications. the less back pressure you have, the better.
 
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