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Old 09-19-2005
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Timing belt and fliuds change???

Does anyone know after how many miles do you change your timing belt and fluids (tranny,radiator/coolants, etc....). Info would be greatly appriciated
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u should search. it has been coverd many times b4. I wanna say timing belt at 90 or 110k miles
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110 for everything i think except your oil thats every 3000
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i just called honda today about the timing belt. i first got a thing in the mail saying 70k. and then another dealer said 80. and then the last two times, i got 90k-100k. so...i'm thinking that 90-100k is the correct one, but it could be they were just trying to get money from me as those notices came as i reached those mileage points.
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the timing belt should be changed at 110K miles or earlier if you drive in severe conditions or when the belt wears out. As for the coolant, they say it will go 100K miles, but I changed it at 50K and then again at 90K, thats because I drive alot. The tranny fluid I would recommend every 20K miles or so.
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110 for everything i think except your oil thats every 3000

And tranny fluid every 20k or so.
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i would do timing belt every 60k and replace the crank pulley with new. auto tranny fluid every 10k, oil change every 3k (or 10k with lc20), coolant whenever freezing point isn't low enough (measure with the floaty *****). But that's cause i love my car.
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I go 7 k with the LC20

But I think any oil can go 5k without a problem. I love my car too but I'm cheap
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funny, here in Canada, everytime I call about the timing belt they keep telling me different times to come in, 1st time they said 160k, then 167k now its 170k...I'm at 162k and havent done it yet...so soon I will...haha
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i'm about to hit 50,000 and i was thinkin about doing a coolant flush so thats good and i changed my tranny oil at 35000. probably when i do my coolant i'm gonna get a honda thermostat
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i'm getting timing belt done today with cam gear at 50k
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Originally Posted by gearbox
i'm getting timing belt done today with cam gear at 50k
DOn't forget to change the water pump... I would anyway
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yes i changed water pump and crank pulley too, along with the seals.
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Originally Posted by gearbox
yes i changed water pump and crank pulley too, along with the seals.
did you do it yourself or have a shop do it?
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shop did it. I don't have the tools or experience to mess with it.
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i changed my radiator fluid at around 67k
and I haven't changed my "transmission fluid" since i bought the car new
and the car has 70k miles is this gonna be alright? or should i get it changed right away?
oh yea i have auto
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i change tranny fluid every 10k. you're taking a huge chance going that long. Even the manual says every 30k.
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Originally Posted by gearbox
shop did it. I don't have the tools or experience to mess with it.
My dad had a freind do his Accord once, and the guy didn't notice the timing slipped a hair when he took the timing belt off. He put the new one on and put everything back together, started the car backup and bent 7 valves. My dad spent $1200 to have heads comletely rebuilt. It's always tell people to take their cars to a good name place to have work like that done. I don't even screw with the timing belt unless I'm taking the entire engine apart, and even then I take to a good shop to have all the timing checked.
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damn, I feel both stupid and lucky...121,935 miles and besides the oil I haven't changed **** at all. but this is my daily beater and not my fun car (240sx)
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Originally Posted by gearbox
yes i changed water pump and crank pulley too, along with the seals.
Gearbox,
I called 2 Honda Dealerships on recommended parts to replace when doing my timing belt and they recommended the following:
1.) Replace Alternator Belt
2.) Replace Power Steering Belt
3.) Replace Water Pump & Water Pump Gasket
4.) Timing Belt Tensioner
5.) Timing Belt Tensioner Bolt (its only like $2 or something)
6.) OIL SEAL
7.) Replace Timing Belt

Who recommended you replace the crank pulley? Just wondering because I have a 2001 Civic with 92k miles and will be performing this service now.

Also, is the seal your talking about the oil seal (#19) in this picture?
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there are two seals one is cam seal and the other is prolly oil. The crank pulley doesn't last very long because the rubber damper breaks apart over time. Usually around 60k miles. I pulled mine out and the rubber was already cracked and broken in many spots. The rubber is the damper that makes the pulley do its job and absorb crank vibration.

there is no need to replace accessory belts. they can be done anytime relatively easily by loosening a few bolts. also the timing belt tensioner almost never has a problem and is expensive too. no need to do that.

i feel so stupid taking to a shop to change the belt. now that i think about it, the manual makes it seem so easy compared to the head swap I'm gonna try this summer. Now that I know how its done, i can't see how they get away with charging so much. It really seems like a simple job. Pull off a few plastic covers, loosen the tensioner, pull off belt and put new on. check timing and done.
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Originally Posted by gearbox
there are two seals one is cam seal and the other is prolly oil.
Where is the cam seal found? What number is it in this picture? Is it #4?
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The crank pulley doesn't last very long because the rubber damper breaks apart over time.
Perfect. I will also replace the crankshaft pulley as well (#13 in the picture below).
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Usually around 60k miles. I pulled mine out and the rubber was already cracked and broken in many spots. The rubber is the damper that makes the pulley do its job and absorb crank vibration.
Where is the damper located? I will buy that also.
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The rubber damper is build into the crank pulley. I'm not sure about which seals. The shop just ordered them for me.
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Thanks Gearbox.

Just talked with someone from Majestic Honda. The two seals to replace are:
1.) Camshaft Seal - #19
2.) Crankshaft Oil Seal - #16

Thanks again,
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when you do the seals, make sure you have the proper tools to install them with.
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