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it doesnt make sense to do on an em2, you wont lose much weight. but it does make a difference in the way the car will feel 4 sure....

 
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Honestly, I havent spent all that much money on this car. The most cash I ever dropped at once was 450 for a full suspension (springs struts nad camber correction). The rest of the stuff is just stupid crap that has added up over time, but actual money paid wasnt that much.

 
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im also with Clint on this idea!

i like my interior bitz and pieces, stereo, etc...
but to shed a 100 or so pounds may shed off a fraction of a second on your 1/4 mi. time?

i can see leaving a big soundsystem out, or pulling the A/C out but thats about it!

Powersteering, i wouldnt recommend that neither. May aswell go buy an old beater that never came with PS and try it out for a week.

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Ive driven cars without PS, my buddy pulled it on his car. Honestly, its a bit of a pain, but once you get past 10 or so mph, I couldnt tell the difference. The steering on his felt more responsive and crisp than it did before the system was pulled, I think for the minor inconvinience it causes, the positives make up for it. I know that whatever mod you do to a car, there is always a good side and a negative tradeoff..ive met the obstacles many times, and have no problem living with them. Hell, give me almost any mod, I will give a positive and a negative to it...its just the way it is, some people can deal with it, some cant...I can

 
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jerkin off to gay **** doesnt count bud

 
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Dont you have something better to do?? Obviously not. Il give you something to dwell on then.

Most people who make gay jokes such as yours are often times trying to hide their own homosexual tendencies.

Anything you want to share with us?

 
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well....when you get the car "lightweight", update us k, id like to know how this turned out for you.

 
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how about keeping the crash bar and going on a diet?

and man is it ever going to suck the day you get a flat, with no spare.

 
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Definately so. All I have is a bathroom scale though, so some of the smaller stuff I will have to guesstimate on. Im gona weigh the sub and stuff tomorrow, I duno how much it was, but the car feel better without it. Im hoping to drop 200 or so with all of this crap, I hope it can actually be done. The exhaust should help a bit as well and so should the intake (had it on before and did feel a difference right around the 4500RPM area all the way to redline. If I can get it into the high 15s, I will be a happy man for the time being.

 
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well, i know that when i installed my soundsystem alone in the trunk which included:

MDF sub-box, prefab, vented,computer spec
x2 12" subs
Amplifier
Capacitor

this alone weighed in around or close to 200lb, and yes...it could be noticed performance-wise. This is why i opted to remove it not to long after it was installed. It made an enormous impact on the overall output, but i know its cus the poor lil 1800cc engine just couldnt pull that weight around trying to gun it. Its like having a passenger in the car at all times, then put that same passengers in the car and the car bogs out.

 
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i believe that if u do remove your crash bar and get into an accident, insurance will not cover all the damages.

 
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Im blessed lol. Nah, im still dwelling on the crash bar idea, I know its a shady area to step into. I dont know if you are familiar with drag cars, but some of them have the holes in the back bumpers to reduce drag. Well I may do the same thing with the crash bars. I will drill out sections (one to start, weigh it, and go from there), so the rigidity will be there, just not all of the weight. I know my buddy got some JDM bumper beams for his subie, that only weigh 7lbs a piece compared to 30ish stock, I dont think this is available for our cars though. They may come out, they may not, I have to think it over since its a bit of an issue, more so than removing the AC system
Yea I know how it can be. My one friend weighs about 250lbs, and when me and him to go play pool and I drive, I can defiantely feel my car considerably slower because of the added weight. If I can get the reverse effect by getting rid of this needles crap (the ac system is literally a dead weight for me because I never use it, I just have windows open in the summer, plus with my motor mount inserts, turning on the ac the car becomes a massage parlor) il be happy. I am trying to find out if there is anymore crap hidden around the car that can be removed, I dont want to get picky and start taking 2lbs out of here and 12oz out of there, but considerable things. If anyone has suggestions, im open.
New years resolution man lol. as far as the spare issue. I tried to take it out but the screw wouldnt come loose so I hit it cause I thought it was rusted in (like everything else on my ****ing car) and it broke from its mounting place. Now the spare is stuck, and me and my friends have to cut it to be able to get the spare out, so basically at this point, me keeping the spare in there is pointless too because I wouldnt be able to get it out even if I needed it lol.

 
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Let me know the first time you fight a nice corner at 50-60 mph and then have to do anything besides turn without power steering. Like brake and make additional corrections to avoid something. The car will fight you and try to **** you. It's just not worth it because our rack is designed for power steering. Strip off all the superfluous stuff absolutely, but please don't **** with safety features on your car.

 
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Well what can come out that is dead weight and not a safety feature...ac for one, washer system although that requires so much work it would prolly be quicker for me to just drain the fluid i dont imagine the tank weighs much...trunk is done, i cant think of anything else the exhaust is just gona add weight

 
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some things shouldnt be touched imho as speedfoos mentioned!
i know its frustrating trying to squeeze as much as possible from these hondas, but by removing saftey features is just a bad idea bro'
id hate to see you get hurt in the end all because of 10-20lbs or so?

only thing i touched on the gts-t was removing the HICAS, which in my case was because i didnt want the damn car to correct itself everytime i tried to get the rear to come out from me in a drift, etc...
other then that...i wont be messing with steering components.

id rather have a car that controls the road, not the road controlling me.

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I'LL weigh that crash bar tonight for ya just in case ya change your mind, as for the safety, lol, i'm that guy you see weaving in and out of traffic on the highway, without a crashbar.
i just like to cross my fingers and pray on my driving skills

 
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for removing the spare, anyone heard of a cell phone? and towing company? lol. the only time i throw the spare in the car is on long trips out of the city. otherwise i think almost every insurance (or cheap aaa) has great towing. btw, ive had my car 6 yrs almost and NEVER was in a situation where i actually had a flat and couldnt drive the car.

 
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Yea..besides


weighs less than this

 
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um but that can explode lol. and it ruins the tire you spray it into. i had a can but threw it out.

 
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^^^true.

 
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i just don't understand all of this for a car that will be driven frequently, a car with essentially no engine work. i'm not cutting up my car unless someone is paying me to do it or it's actually functional without compromising too much comfort/safety.

in addition to compromising safety, cutting off your crash bars will definitely lower resale when you go to sell your car, unless you're dishonest and don't bother to say anything about them.

removing your spare and jack, i see nothing wrong with that. as gearbox stated, we have cell phones. i dont have a spare at all but i also have never had a flat tire in my life.

power steering i'm still indifferent about. i don't have power steering and haven't for awhile, but it's nice to have in parking lots. my car really isnt hard to turn at all. i weigh 160 pounds so you can get an idea about my size. i've been in many squirrely situations and handled them fine without power steering. i also go over my steering components every time i do an oil change and make sure all is in order.

a/c, whatever. i never used mine either in any of the cars i've owned. my current car has no a/c, last car i had, someone crashed into it and crushed the condenser so i said **** it. cleans up the bay when it's gone.

maybe you'd be better off with some lighter wheels and maybe a tad bit lighter flywheel to make your car feel a bit zippy? i just don't think you're going to get the desired results from what you're trying to do.

 
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AAA won't tow your car if you have lowered the suspension.

found out the hard way

 
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Why would I need it towed with a flat?? Besides I could just call a friend and have them bring me a wheel...or my parents

 
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AAA will tow your car. When you call, tell them you need a flat bed and hope you dont get a ******** tow truck driver. You should never use anything but a flatbed when towing our cars.

And by the way, i just gutted my entire interior tonight. I only have a drivers seat in right now. No, i dont want it that way, but my new carpet came in from Honda today so I had to take everything out and I didnt have time to put it back in tonight. If you wanna see pics or have anything weighed, let me know...everythings going back in tomorrow.

 
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IMing you now

 
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So have u removed the stuff outyet ???

Get ready for some serious INCABIN NOISE while driving on the freeway ...
Here I am Dynamating the whole car next week adding more pounds to the car ... and here i find this dude ... doing completely the opposite of what I have in mind :d hahaha

Suscribed on this one !

 
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Not weighed yet, rest of it is coming out when i get the exhaust on

 
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weigh that thing i really want to know how much it is.

Hey Rob is there a rubber mat under the carpet? I think on earlier cars there was, if so can you throw that sucker on a scale for me? thanks bro

 
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Nah Oscar, its just the carpet with the padding attached to it, no rubber mat.

 
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official crash bar weight equals...dun da da dun da da daaahhh
13.5 POUNDS!

now keep in mind this is a bathroom scale and idk how accuarate it is, BUT i did weigh it multiple times, (13.5 every time), AND keep in mind there was some styrofoam taped to it i didn't feel like taking off