Originally Posted by electric130

i've got an 02 that i'm about to buy some TYC projectors and retro some TSX HID projectors in place of the halogen ones. i'm piecing everything together now. don't buy one of the HID conversions and slap it in the halogen projectors. if you search around, you'll find pics of people that did that and the light output is horrible. if you want HID's, do it right and do a retro. be ready to spend around $500 though.

Originally Posted by LT2004ever

do you know why that is?

Originally Posted by JDMLyfestyles

I really hope this thread can help you guys. Ur making the road more dangerous than it already is by adding a HID kit to your car. so please do HID the right way by doing a retrofit.

HID kits are illegal due to the glare that they cause. Glare is Light that is emitted in a Uncontrollable path. When light is traveling in a uncontrollable path it can hit other vehicle operators affecting there vision because of the High amount of uncontrollable light that is being Emitted from a HID kit in a standard Halogen housing. If you have ever turned a flashlight on right in front of your face while it is dark out, that is the same feeling that the other drivers on the road experience from a standard HID kit.

OEM Vehicles such as Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Lexus are all equipped with HID or Xenon Headlights. Some use reflector housing’s without projectors. Others use HID projectors.

The Lexus IS300 is a Prime Example of a HID reflector housing. It does not use a Projector. It uses a Specially designed Reflector housing that is meant to use HID. This does not create the Super sharp cutoff. But it does control where the light is being Emitted.

Other vehicles such as the Honda S2000 Use HID projectors, These Projectors are meant to use HID. They are Specially Designed and have been tested Hundreds of times to get the right projection of light while maintaining a Good Cutoff.


Here are pictures of Halogen housings mated with a HID kit


9006 6000k HID Kit... mad glare


This teg is a prime example of Glare. This is what it looks like to oncoming traffic


Disaster pix. HID kit in Halogen Housing




NOW THE GOOD poop..lol

This is what HID is suppose to look like.. Pictured is a STi


Talk about a Razor Sharp Cutoff. Pictured is a S2000 OEM setup


another S2000 Retrofit… YUMMY

Article stating why the kits are illegal.
NHTSA Notice: Glare from Headlamps and other Front Mounted Lamps - FMVSS 108

Comparison.. Pictured is a Acura TL-S with HID from the factory vs H4 6000K civic
See the difference?






Its not just honda's either. Here is a mid 90's Lexus with a HID kit..

To date, NHTSA has investigated 24 HID conversion kit suppliers; all investigations have resulted in recalls or termination of sales.

RM Racing
Astex USA
Kmax International
FET, Inc.
J. Liu LLC
Gourmet Garage
JC Whitney
Lighting Research
SPW Industries, Inc.
Pacific Micro-lite
McCulloch Motors, Inc.
Santeca Electronics
JF Manufacturing
Streetglow, Inc.
Outback Products, Inc.
Nu Performance
GR Motorsports, Inc.
Global Premier
New Clor
Importhookup.com
DG International
MTC Lighting
Umnitza
Liteglow
American Products Company
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