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WANT HIDs? VERY IMPORTANT, PLEASE READ!

If you've ever thought about getting HIDs for your halogen lamps, this is a very important read. READ THIS ARTICLE, and save your money! No, really, it's a very good read!
It will tell you exactly why you will never get the performance of a BMW's HIDs on your Civic, or any halogen headlamp for that matter.

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...nversions.html
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interesting find
I wish more people would read this kinda stuff before they decide to paypal money over to the first HID line item on ebay. *sigh* I sware a lot of people search on ebay more then they search on 7th gen.

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hmm... so i guess mod express is in trouble jk but i think i might just play around with the bulbs now...
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lol I run d2r bulbs in my OEM housings, and have for the past few years. It's much brighter than halogen no matter what that article tells ya..

"This article will never go out of date, because the problems with HID kits are conceptual problems, not problems of implementation. Therefore, they cannot be overcome by additional research and development, any more than someone could develop a way for you to put on somebody else's eyeglasses and see correctly."

Blah, it's a safety issue for other drivers mostly. The problem is that the HID bulbs give off much more light and halogen housings aren't setup to properly output that light in a safe fashion. This guy can talk all day about them being illegal, which they are, but I , in no way, agree with him on the basis that they can put out less light and thats NOT conceptual, it's pure implementation

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Just retrofit projectors instead of slapping a kit on
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Originally Posted by gh0st
Just retrofit projectors instead of slapping a kit on
read the article you idiot, it mentions why this is ineffective
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This article is like 10 years old. Get over it.
You want light output, get HID's retrofitted.
Want real info, go to the HID Planet forums.
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Originally Posted by vassman86
read the article you idiot, it mentions why this is ineffective
Have you seen a retrofit in person compared to a stock halogen reflectors? There's no need for name calling, but if you're going to solely fall back on this article and have no basis on personal experience, then you have no grounds to call someone an idiot.

Besides, if you understood what "retrofit" meant in terms of the modding world, you'd understand that "retrofitting" wasn't just slapping an HID kit into our stock headlights.

Originally Posted by Daniel Stern Lighting
The only safe and legitimate HID retrofit is one that replaces the entire headlamp—that is lens, reflector, bulb...the WHOLE shemozzle—with optics designed for HID usage. In the aftermarket, it is possible to get clever with the growing number of available products, such as Hella's modular projectors available in HID or halogen, and fabricate your own brackets and bezels, or to modify an original-equipment halogen headlamp housing to contain optical "guts" designed for HID usage. But just putting an HID bulb where a halogen one belongs is bad news all around.
So as I said, retrofit properly. QED.

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