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Old 02-08-2005
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LED Tails

I've been working on my LED tails, and I dunno whether I like them. They're really close together right now, I think I might try a different LED pattern, something more evenly spaced - farther apart.

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not bad! A little bit of spacing wouldn't hurt

but a very nice acomplishment
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i like it. the lines kind of remind me of a............. hm.. 04 TL? not shure. looks familiar.

goodjob man, keep up the good work. btw how are u putting the leds in? any pics of ur instal process..
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yeah, i have pics of it all. i ordered about 1000 Leds, so i'll have a few designs before i do it to all my tails. I think i'll try better evenly space them/cross them tomorrow

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daaamn nice. whered u get the LEDs from? n how much did it cost..

btw post up some of the pics of everything. interested 2 see some more
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Looks real good. Reminds me of a G35.
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space them out more....

are those superflux leds? or just regular leds (3mm, 5mm)?

LEDs are just a light source and needs optical components to keep light where you want it. If too much light is bleeding off in unwanted directions, more LEDs are needed, cost goes up, power consumption goes up, heat sink gets big and fabrication time increases. OEM normally uses a single parabolic reflector around each LED. This is cheap for them to make because of volume, but creating or reproducing them in the garage is not economically feasable. 5mm diameter LEDs comes with a built in lens that will narrow down the beam. A low angle beam LED can relativly easy be made into a wider angle by simply making shape of the cone flatter. An oval beam can also be made by shaving in one direction. A low powered hand sander with around 150 grit will do this easily. Be careful not to overheat LEDs.
Im tryin too find a site that sells em but, i cant right now

This is what a parabolic reflector looks like though,



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this is the new 3 series tail light...



You can see the reflectors each led has
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Wow that looks great! But yea that reflector would be nice.
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btw... SEDANS ARE THE EASIEST TOO COMPLETE A LED RETROFIT!

why?

well, that inner section that you provided is alread "done", the other peice you can literally just plug/play a led cluster in it...

http://www.grote.com/
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Here's the newest version, these are all just regular T 1 3/4 size. I'd like them more closely spaced, but they're too bright, imo. and the innter tails of the sedan are always on, the outer has the brake lights, so i need to make sure the outer and inner can be distinguished.



I'm not sure I understand what you mean about the sedan tails, i've honestly never seen a coupe tail in person
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I think the 5mm LEDs I used are already really narrow beam, enough so that it might be advantageous to flatten the tips down, maybe just in the middle 9 or so LEDs? A quick google and I couldn't seem to find anything on LED reflectors.
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Shave the tips down if you want light to be more spread out. You have two choices for the outer brake lights. Either change the pattern to include more leds when the brake is pressed, or get leds that can become brighter. That second one is kinda tricky tho.
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dude.. if I could get some red nightshades stuff and some LEDs, I have euros.. I could try it.. im not much of a fabricator.. but if it'd look as good as urs, that'd b badass
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im prolly to lazy to do it, but its an idea..
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Originally Posted by gearbox
Shave the tips down if you want light to be more spread out. You have two choices for the outer brake lights. Either change the pattern to include more leds when the brake is pressed, or get leds that can become brighter. That second one is kinda tricky tho.

Yeah, i've been thinking about how i was going to do that. I've been going through a couple different ways. I was thinking I could just severely limit the current when it's not litThe easier way would just to be to add another couple rows of LEDs that light up, but I'd really like to do some PWM to do it. I don't think the PWM would be too hard, i've played with it before, but it almost just seems like a hassle.
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I think i'll get em in tonight
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Nice let us know what happens.
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I don't know how much I like them, I like the brightness, all I have in is the inner sections, and they aren't too bright or piercing at all. I'm going to try tackle the outer sections soon, homefully this weekend.

Maybe I'll like them more once i have the brake/turn signal lights in?

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It's strange looking cause there's too many little dots. You need bigger leds and some kind of reflector like above.
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I think it hurts that the LEDs are pushed right against the back of the lenses, so they don't get any time to spread. I'll have to work on some other sort of arrangement.

Any idea on where to buy some of these reflectors?
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