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Old Sep 26, 2024
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2003 Civic EX sedan- 5MT- misfiring and oil loss

I have a 2003 EX with 195,000 miles. The scanner is showing misfires on 3 and 4 along with miscellaneous misfires. I suspect a small oil leak from the spark plug tube seal on 3 as there is a little oil around the base of the spark plug on the coil side. Spark plug 4, and 3 to a lesser extent, have what I assume are carbon build up. All plugs are only a few months old, Denso iridium.

I want to do a compression test and a top down leak test, but I'm afraid to run the engine long enough to get to operating temp with how bad the misfire is.

Attached image shows plugs, numbered as I understand them to be numbered. 4 was scraped with my thumb nail to see how hard the black stuff is and sprayed with carb cleaner one time.

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Re: 2003 Civic EX sedan- 5MT- misfiring and oil loss

I would suspect 4 is your issue. 3 follows 4 in the firing order so it may be unrelated. You could initially try swapping plugs and coils around to see what the misfires follow. Take the plug from 4 and move to 1. Take the coil from 4 and move to 2. See if the misfire switches to one of the other cylinders.
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Re: 2003 Civic EX sedan- 5MT- misfiring and oil loss

Originally Posted by BrotatoChip
3 follows 4 in the firing order so it may be unrelated.
Just being pedantic. Isn't it 1-3-4-2?

But yeah, cyl 4 is def the culprit. For the plugs on cylinders 1-3, are they white or like.. toasted marshmallow tan?
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Re: 2003 Civic EX sedan- 5MT- misfiring and oil loss

I had it in my head that it was 1-4-3-2. Thinking about it now, that doesn't even make sense. You are correct @xRiCeBoYx
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Re: 2003 Civic EX sedan- 5MT- misfiring and oil loss

I've put in the same type spark plugs it came with, Denso platinum. I've swapped coils 1&3 and 2&4. It's still running rough at idle and lower RPMs, but smooths out around 3k. No new codes, so I can't determine the cylinder that way, exhaust note sounds like it is missing combustion on one cylinder though. Putting my hand in front of the exhaust, I can see small black liquid splattering on my hand, like a mist. Think droplets like the size from a spray paint can, but no where as dense. Like it took several seconds to notice it on my hand.
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Re: 2003 Civic EX sedan- 5MT- misfiring and oil loss

Does it have EGR? Clogged EGR runners in the intake manifold can cause misfires. Maybe the actual EGR valve as well.
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Re: 2003 Civic EX sedan- 5MT- misfiring and oil loss

Doesn't set codes either if i remember correctly
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Re: 2003 Civic EX sedan- 5MT- misfiring and oil loss

Originally Posted by BrotatoChip
Does it have EGR? Clogged EGR runners in the intake manifold can cause misfires. Maybe the actual EGR valve as well.
I'll pull and clean the EGR valve tomorrow. I'm not familiar with cleaning the runners, so I'll have to look that up. If you know a good tutorial, feel free to link it, lol.
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Re: 2003 Civic EX sedan- 5MT- misfiring and oil loss

Take the manifold off, clean, reinstall. Make sure you use the gasket that has the holes for egr
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Re: 2003 Civic EX sedan- 5MT- misfiring and oil loss

The runners are in the thin aluminum part of the intake manifold, not the large plastic part.
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Re: 2003 Civic EX sedan- 5MT- misfiring and oil loss

Originally Posted by Colin42
Take the manifold off, clean, reinstall. Make sure you use the gasket that has the holes for egr
Intake or exhaust?
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Re: 2003 Civic EX sedan- 5MT- misfiring and oil loss

Intake
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