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SFpower 03-29-2003 12:10 PM

SFpower turbo system group buyPLEASE READ FIRST POST!!!
 
many of you have expressed an interest in a turbo system that is afforable, complete,high qulity,reliable and kicks a$$ on the steet.well heres your chance i biuld costom turbo systems i have just recently decided to make some kits that the average guy can install in his on garage.these ar not a throw it together kit .each kit is built buy hand one at a time it is a custom kit i will duplicate. Now i can offer this kit for 2900.00 if i have a group buy of 10 or more otherwise the system is 3500.00 for all you loners out there.PLEASE ONLY POST HERE IF YOU WANT ONE AND LEAVE YOUR E-MAIL ADRESS SO I CAN CONTACT YOU.

t-3 turbo,custom manifold,intercooler piping.intercooler(9"x19"x23/4 core +tanks),down pipe to stock exhust ,air intake,bov.P.F.M.(revalutionary fuel controller),oil lines & fitting for the pan,pictures & instuctions(in inglish)


i wil post pics and dyno numbers very soon :damn:

ohmysac 03-29-2003 12:38 PM

i am down for it depending on my satisfaction of pics and dyno numbers...also is shipping included?

email: ohmysac@woh.rr.com

BLACKex613nin 03-29-2003 01:27 PM

i am interested too, this 127 sohc just isnt cutting it!! details details!!
Nineinchnails613@hotmail.com <---- email

JoHn

EternalVTEC 03-29-2003 02:05 PM

maybe if youd learn to spell you would sell more systems

CapYoda 03-29-2003 02:37 PM

geez more ppl bashing him for no reason.

so she had some typos or spelled wrong. who cares.

jungleboogie 03-29-2003 02:46 PM

oooh turbo... i like

ViNRoCk8 03-29-2003 03:20 PM

Isn't this the same guy who posted something like this not to long ago.
Well if it isn't give us more info

Like everyone says.........Where are the pics???

trick000 03-29-2003 03:23 PM

what about an external wastegate?

blue2k2 03-29-2003 03:35 PM

I am in also with some dyno info
irishmc76@hotmail.com

Toca 03-29-2003 05:03 PM

details....

rino 03-29-2003 06:37 PM

post dyno

azure 03-29-2003 06:45 PM

I'm interested, but I just need to see some pics and the dyno sheet, then I'll decide.

Catalyst 03-29-2003 07:20 PM

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Here is a pic of the manifold

courtesy of SFpower and Catalyst

This is my car.

http://www.geocities.com/teamcatalys...civicturbo.jpg

if that doesnt work, here is the link

http://www.geocities.com/teamcatalys...civicturbo.jpg

and if that doesnt work, then i attached it as well

HCCriminal 03-29-2003 11:17 PM

:damn:
so fresh and soo clean ... nice job on the fabrication ... !
i'm interested .... please post the dyno sheets...!!

MagicRacing18 03-29-2003 11:28 PM

With this new fuel system, what do you estimate the boost will be able to get to? I belive riceburnerex has 8 or 9 PSI of boost with out anything like that, and that gave him 198whp. Thanks alot

~nick~

Duckor 03-29-2003 11:34 PM

has this been dyno'd yet? and is this setup with the fuel rail possible to exceed more than 7 psi?

SFpower 03-30-2003 12:06 AM

i have run upto 14 psi w/ this system and made 300hp to the ground but it was on a stock 1.8LS non vetec we where just testing the fuel system

mike0404 03-30-2003 01:21 AM

i'm in
mike0404noga@hotmail.com

dragoon 03-30-2003 10:08 AM

very nice.. now to rob $2900 from a bank or something

Cyclosporine 03-30-2003 01:46 PM

interesting...hope this doesn't die like so many other offers

Catalyst 03-30-2003 02:10 PM

it wont die, because there have already been 2 kits sold.

Thats why my car is apart, so there can be copies made from the original.

WhiteRabbit 03-30-2003 02:15 PM

are you going to eventually part kits out? or will you ONLY sell this as a complete kit? you say you are building this custom one at a time, does that mean you cna make custom changes based on customer desires?

azure 03-30-2003 02:45 PM

Can this go on my automatic LX?

EternalVTEC 03-30-2003 02:55 PM

just to make an important note, if you put a turbo as big as the T-3 on a little engine like ours, there will be lag till around 3000-3500 rpm, ask some of the others on the site what theyre running, im sure theyll tell you theres a lot of lag. and look at the manifold, it may look clean but look at the primaries, theyre all different lengths, it doesnt look like they tried to make them similar, which is important for best performance. how much R&D time went into this system man?

RSXtypeIvtec 03-30-2003 03:32 PM

i would be interested in it too, after some pics and dyno numbers
thanks

Catalyst 03-30-2003 05:36 PM

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just to make an important note, if you put a turbo as big as the T-3 on a little engine like ours, there will be lag till around 3000-3500 rpm, ask some of the others on the site what theyre running, im sure theyll tell you theres a lot of lag. and look at the manifold, it may look clean but look at the primaries, theyre all different lengths, it doesnt look like they tried to make them similar, which is important for best performance. how much R&D time went into this system man?
Tell me, would you rather have a "Log style" Manifold? The primaries are all equal length, except for the #1 cylinder, which is only about 1/2 inche longer. And that was needed to keep the AC. Also, would you rather have much longer primaries? The longer it is, the less heat it has in the charge, which means slower spooling.

This manifold is made in such a way that the length of the primaries are as short, and as close to equal length as possible.

dont try to trash something that is nicer than the rest of the turbo kits youve ever seen for our cars.

After all, do you think Fiber Images would put a Piece of crap turbo kit on their car? Expecially after spending all that money on carbon fiber?

Think before you speak, and dont trash something based on a picture.

This kit is based on Staffords other kits, which make awesome street power. You want to see the dyno chart for my CRX with his kit on it? my crx went from 88 hp and 89 ft/lbs of torque (to the ground) to 215.1 hp and 176 ft/lbs to the ground.

Heres the numbers for my CRX, this was at 10 psi of boost
THIS IS NOT MY CIVIC, it is an 89 CRX HF

Catalyst 03-30-2003 05:41 PM

another thing to add, the T3 was not too big for my little 1.6L in my crx, which only had 88 hp to the ground. Since our civics have a 1.7L engine that makes more than 88 hp to the ground, you can probably expect some pretty good numbers from the new kit.

We will know as soon as my piping goes back on my car, so just wait until we have real numbers before you guys start trash talking again.

ShadyMilkMan 03-30-2003 05:44 PM

how much cheaper would it be without the exhaust manifold. Also what is wrong with a log style manifold? Thanks

spoon 03-30-2003 05:48 PM

sounds goood! but im just as anxious as every1 else ... pics? dyno?? when??

Catalyst 03-30-2003 06:02 PM

The thing that is wrong with a log style manifold is that the exhaust charges do not get to the turbo at the same time. Each cylinder's exhaust gas gets there in differing amounts of times, meaning that 2 cylinders can enter the turbo at the same time.

The log style manifolds are not Horrible, it is just that equal length manifolds give better spooling time, and they just look awesome.

ShadyMilkMan 03-30-2003 06:20 PM

you didnt answer my question about how much cheaper it would be without your exhaust manifold, beause i can get a custom log one made where i can still keep my ac for 150

score00 03-30-2003 07:06 PM

sorry, as i know this has probably been answered in one of the other threads... could i have a listing of what the kit includes [intercooler?].
you also mentioned the v-tec, where the lx has a v-tec-e (i bought this expressily for future turbo's - lower initial compression). i'm hopint to run between 8 and 10 lbs boost for the street... and spooling at about 3000 would be nearly perfect for my application.

steve

CarbonFly 03-30-2003 07:13 PM

Score00 it comes with an intercooler.........here is the list of parts...

t-3 turbo,custom manifold,intercooler piping.intercooler(9"x19"x23/4 core +tanks),down pipe to stock exhust ,air intake,bov.P.F.M.(revalutionary fuel controller),oil lines & fitting for the pan,pictures & instuctions(in inglish)

MagicRacing18 03-30-2003 09:35 PM

Well I'll be damned, FlyRice made mod... I bet you damn near blew in your pants when you heard that news. CONGRATS MAN!!!

~Nick~

obzerv 03-30-2003 09:45 PM

wow, this is intresting...now i'm just wondering, what happens when we go to get our cars smogged??? do we just take it apart and put back all the stock parts? oh, and also, i'm am very intrested, just dont have the funds as of right now...if i wanted to get it at a later time (maybe a year?) would i still be able to contact u and get one made? thanks.

bounca115@hotmail.com is my email.

CarbonFly 03-30-2003 09:53 PM


Originally posted by MagicRacing18
Well I'll be damned, FlyRice made mod... I bet you damn near blew in your pants when you heard that news. CONGRATS MAN!!!

~Nick~

I think everyone blew their pants when they heard the news. I'm lovin it here in mod world.

azure 03-30-2003 10:06 PM


Originally posted by obzerv
wow, this is intresting...now i'm just wondering, what happens when we go to get our cars smogged??? do we just take it apart and put back all the stock parts? oh, and also, i'm am very intrested, just dont have the funds as of right now...if i wanted to get it at a later time (maybe a year?) would i still be able to contact u and get one made? thanks.

bounca115@hotmail.com is my email.

Good questions. I'm wondering the same. Oh, and I'm interested also.

cmarquez_57@hotmail.com

Boosted2k2 03-30-2003 10:37 PM


Originally posted by score00
sorry, as i know this has probably been answered in one of the other threads... could i have a listing of what the kit includes [intercooler?].
you also mentioned the v-tec, where the lx has a v-tec-e (i bought this expressily for future turbo's - lower initial compression). i'm hopint to run between 8 and 10 lbs boost for the street... and spooling at about 3000 would be nearly perfect for my application.

steve

The LX does not have VTEC-E. I think you are thinking of the HX. The LX has no VTEC whatsoever. You are right about the lower compression though.

Catalyst 03-30-2003 11:45 PM

it is a professional business, so you will have to order it when u get the money. Youjust wont get the kick A$$ group buy discount like the people who are gonna do the group buy.

obzerv 03-31-2003 12:01 AM

ok, thats what i wanna know im down to pay bout 3 gs..just need to save up first. heh, who knows, maybe there will be a group buy when i get the skrill..btw, what is the name of the company and do they have a website?

JoeyOKC 03-31-2003 12:08 AM

riceburnerex is boosting more than that now. I think 10 or 11psi. I have ridden in his car and it is Saweeeeeet!!!! http://www.speedingtexan.com

James00_33 03-31-2003 01:41 AM

I'm interestet and have money. Shot me an e-mail.
james00_33@yahoo.com

EnProceso 03-31-2003 02:42 AM


Originally posted by obzerv
ok, thats what i wanna know im down to pay bout 3 gs..just need to save up first. heh, who knows, maybe there will be a group buy when i get the skrill..btw, what is the name of the company and do they have a website?
i would like to know this too. it'll be sometime before i can get 3k. where can i contact you in the future when i'm ready. also how do you think it will perform on an automatic?

Ike 03-31-2003 08:23 AM

Will the kit let you keep your AC.

SFpower 03-31-2003 11:37 AM

the biggest misconception on turbo manifolds is the purpose it serves. this manifold i have made to fit in the 7 gen civic w/out modifing everthing around it it keeps the a/c stock fans stock mid pipe stock rad hoses and is farly easy to put in.it is not an equal length but it is a 4into1 style.i have found this to be the more inportant quaity over the equal length and here is why.w/ a log style manifold all the exh. go into one chamber then into the turbo.this causes a pressure spike and heat biuldup to take pace in the manifold .this extra pressue in the manifold cause heat disapation before the exhust gets to the turbo.(be not mis informed turbos do not run on exhust blowing throw the turbine ,but on the heat and pressure)w/ a 4into1 style the exh. gases don't meet untill they are inthe inlet of the ehx. turbine this causing the heat and presure to build at the turbine causing faster spoolup time and mor efficent power.in a perfic world an equal length manifold is best because it adds better scavenging of the cyclinders .unfortunetly honda didn't consult me onthis before to the design of the engine compartment so well have to make do!!

ohmysac 03-31-2003 12:40 PM

ok ok lemme get this straight...the manifold pictured bolts right up to the stock EX downpipe/cat correct?

XTREME2K2CIVIC 03-31-2003 02:16 PM

I am very interested in this... I want to know also how long we have until the group buy is taking money.. I would love turbo but I just cant pop 3000 dollars out of my a$$.... Email me with info or a timeframe and dyno numbers... sijoker789@msn.com

RedDragon333 03-31-2003 03:10 PM

i might be interested once i see some more concrete numbers and info. Email me jade_dragon33@hotmail.com

Nitek 03-31-2003 09:16 PM

Ok, so with this setup I do not have to modify any accessories like the a/c in any way right?
Also, what about the fuel management. What kind of management will be included in the kit?

RiceBuRNeR 04-01-2003 11:00 AM

I want in (damn here gos another loan)

turbocivicex@hotmail.com


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