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cambo 02-15-2005 03:08 PM

2007 Ford Mustang Cobra
 
And yet, you guys will still say ford is crappy. enjoy.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/pmdemas/4ff6.jpg


2007 SVT Cobra to be unvieled at the Detroit Auto Show starting March 25

SVT Still Kicking, Ford Says

"With no cars currently on the market, there’ve been plenty of rumors working their way through the industry grapevine about the future of Ford Motor Co.’s high-performance SVT unit. But “reports of its demise have been greatly exaggerated,” the head of the brand-within-a-brand told TheCarConnection.com, lifting a turn-of-phrase from Mark Twain. “We’d hate to give up on the brand equity we’ve established over the last 10 years,” insisted Hau Thai-Tang, the new boss of SVT, who until recently led the development of the new, retro-styled Mustang. An SVT version of the Mustang will be unveiled at the upcoming New York Auto Show, said Thai-Tang, and though he wouldn’t confirm production plans, sources told TCC it’s a bit more than a year away. Several other possible SVT models are under consideration, with an emphasis on adding a more mainstream product, such as a high-performance Fusion sedan.


Details:

- 465HP, 6-speed manual running in the low 12's with a trap speed of 120mph!

- You choose the rear suspension set up, either IRS or Solid Rear Axle with the IRS apparently pulling over 1.0g in the corners...

- The Price... in and around 30k

Motor: 5.4 Supercharged, 3 valve heads (with HUGE valves), forged internals similar to the 4.6 (Crank, rods, etc), modestly rated (under rated actually) ~465 HP/495 lb ft Torque, using a twin screw S/C similar to that on the Ford GT but pullied differently, hence the lower HP. This motor was supposedly made official (in house only) just in the last few days.

Transmissions: 6 speed manuals standard with a heavy duty 5 speed auto (the tranny used on the Ford Superduty but programmed/geared differently) as an option in late '07 or the '08 M/Y

Suspensions: A re-engineered, heavy duty IRS will be an option with a modified 3 link/panhard bar-live axle setup as the standard rear axle. SVT will be going for the Road Race buyer as well as the straight line racer with both axles optional. However, the Axle options are not set in stone as of the moment but look highly likely to be approved. The Cobra will be lowered about 1.5" from a stock GT.

Bodywork: The retro theme will continue with a serious nod to the '67 Shelby. The fenders may be flared more than the standard '05 but that is not for certain as of now. The ducktail will be factory installed. Also, no convertible is planned for now but no reason was given other than concerns over chassis reliability due to the torque volume.
More rumors spreading around about this.

Kadenx 02-15-2005 03:12 PM

It looks mean. I like it.

jeffsta17 02-15-2005 03:14 PM

That looks sick

QBoi 02-15-2005 03:15 PM


- The Price... in and around 30k






:susp:

silver_surfer 02-15-2005 03:22 PM

thats hot

Al Gore FTW 02-15-2005 03:27 PM

Nice, insane specs.

gearbox 02-15-2005 03:36 PM

too old looking. I like new style cars.

C2i0v0i1C 02-15-2005 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by cambo
And yet, you guys will still say ford is crappy.

yes we will

mxcivic 02-15-2005 03:40 PM

im not feeling the front but maybe in person will grow ....

Jrfish007 02-15-2005 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by C2i0v0i1C
yes we will

Yup, I don't like the looks. Fast car, but it is still crap. :rofl:

I'm thinking that price is quite right, $30G sounds small, the last one sold for close to $40G right? How is this going to be 75% of that wiht those specs.

D17thgen 02-15-2005 03:51 PM

older SVT's look much better imo.

i seen the gt model on the streets and it doesnt look so good.

Jrfish007 02-15-2005 03:52 PM

Okay, my bad, 40G was the convertible, 35G is the coupe, still cheaper than the last model, just doesn't make sense to me

D17thgen 02-15-2005 03:52 PM

^i guess they used cheaper parts this time :hgrin:

aznboysrfr 02-15-2005 03:53 PM

wow. just wow.

Kizuel 02-15-2005 04:00 PM

It's still a Ford, but this is the way fast cars should look. None of this minivan, 2300 A.D, no straight edge look.

04RedCiVP 02-15-2005 04:36 PM

I personally love it! Looks similar to the classic gt500. Im a huge fan of the 60's muscle cars so I can appreciate the looks of this car!

2k1civic01 02-15-2005 04:39 PM

Still looks like a POS to me IMO..lol

white2K2EX 02-15-2005 04:40 PM

That thing is amazing. If I've got the money in '07, I just might be driving an '07 or '08 SVT Mustang.

CivicRocker02 02-15-2005 04:44 PM

I love the way fords going with there stangs :tup:

GuliziaN 02-15-2005 04:52 PM

My Dad says in 2 years he might sell his S2K (Hopefully to me...) and purchase a Cobra... I don't want him to... I think at the very least he should stay Honda...

Havok2k1 02-15-2005 05:10 PM

Thats not a pic of it nor are those the details of the Cobra. That was made up from another site, but I'm way too lazy to look for the link....

Havok2k1 02-15-2005 05:14 PM

The real story

http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=101811


Betting on SVT Futures: Ford's new hands have big plans for in-house tuner brand
BOB GRITZINGER
Posted Date: 2/14/05

Maybe all the fretting, all the online chatter, all the enthusiast gnashing of teeth about the future of Ford’s Special Vehicle Team is unwarranted. Maybe we are just seeing a lull in production at that granddaddy of domestic in-house performance tuners.

“I hope so, or else I’m out of a job,” says Ford engineer Hau Thai-Tang, the newly named director of SVT, replacing SVT icon John Coletti who retired at the end of 2004.

Something tells us Thai-Tang, the Vietnamese native who recently completed his self-described dream job—as chief engineer on the 2005 Mustang development team—won’t hurt for work anytime soon. But whether that work focuses on future SVT vehicles, and what form those products might take, remains to be seen.

Rest assured, though, Thai-Tang and his boss, Ford product creation vice president Phil Martens (himself a relative newbie, having just taken control of the product leadership position at Ford after the Dec. 1 retirement of engineering whiz Chris Theodore), are saying the right things.

Martens will admit he was getting upward of 15 letters a day from alarmed SVT faithful after Coletti’s retirement announcement. But his answers to them:

* “SVT is actually bigger, staff-wise, than ever before.”
* “We see SVT growing to about five products.”
* “SVT is, and will remain, a Ford-branded product.”
* “The core of every SVT program is its powertrain; second is chassis dynamics.”
* “The next-generation Cobra will be the best one ever.”

Martens, who approved the next SVT Cobra a day before we interviewed him in January, pointed to the Mustang as an example of a product engineer*ed from the outset with an SVT version in mind.

SVT products need to be created as part of a model plan, instead of being develop*ed after the main product line has left the drawing board, he says. That way it will prevent embarrassing program delays (see SVT Lightning) or cancellations, and allow Ford to use SVT as a launching pad for new performance technologies, says Martens.

That’s fine when it comes to finances and product planning, but doesn’t a large portion of SVT’s success lie in its indepen*- dence from the mother ship? Or are they starting to learn lessons about integration from upstarts at Chrysler Street and Racing Technology and GM Performance Division?

Martens says SVT will remain a stand-alone operation, at least physically, but the team will now enjoy a direct line of communication to the product development office. “We really need to bring SVT back to its roots, into the mainstream of product development, if we’re going to take SVT to the next level. SVT needs to be an integral part of product development.”

So what can fans expect? Martens says SVT will maintain its core of high-performance V8-powered rear-wheel-drive vehicles. It will expand into inline four-cylinder cars as well. And it will break ground venturing into all-wheel-drive performance models. Turbo- and superchargers also figure prominently. And SVT will draw heavily on lessons learned developing the Ford GT, from its racing experience, and with engineers who bring cross-systems expertise.

Thai-Tang says under his stewardship he aims to make sure SVT core values of performance, exclusivity, substance and value remain intact. “It’s easy to build a strong-performing $100,000 car,” he says. “It’s a lot harder to do a strong-performing $20,000 car. You have to be a lot more creative.”

Martens admits even when you put all the pieces in place, you still must have “the moxie to develop the products—you have to have people with cars at the core of their essence.”

One of those guys, SVT papa Coletti, wishes his successors the best: “We’ve laid down a lot of rubber, and I hope the company will continue to do that.”

Lookin’ Live

When Ford rolls out the SVT Cobra version of its all-new Mustang at the New York auto show in March, take a peek underneath. If our sources are right, your prying eyes will spy a live rear axle—not an independent rear suspension, the setup that would be in keeping with the suspension on the outgoing model, and is therefore anticipated by the SVT Cobra faithful.

Ford execs are officially mum, including product chief Phil Martens, who said as recently as the Detroit auto show that no decision had been made on the Cobra’s suspension. Hau Thai-Tang, chief engineer on the 2005 Mustang and now SVT chief, did hint we can expect the next Cobra to surpass 400 hp (we hear 450 hp) and hit a price of about $40,000. The SVT Cobra goes on sale in 2006 as an ’07 model.

AzNmiKex215 02-15-2005 05:23 PM

wow thats pretty nice, my buddy that does the smog inspections for the garage i work at has an 03 corba!!!

its impressive, but a supra with BPU+ can run about the same times! and about the same traps!

pbfoot 02-15-2005 05:34 PM

i love the new mustang. and i dont care if it handles like a pig, although ive heard its better than the older models (is that a myth?).

it would be insane if caroll shelby does something with this gen like he did with the gt500. that would absolutely be the sweetest thing ever!!!! please mr. shelby!!!!! PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!! :_bow:

Mike4831 02-15-2005 05:46 PM

Clean.

littlePman 02-15-2005 06:13 PM

i love it, too bad it might not be the real thing.

I really don't like the wheels though, look really cheap, I'm not to sure what even looks good on the new Mustangs anyways.

InanimateCarbonRod 02-15-2005 07:12 PM

It looks like it could be Batman's daily driver.

ACURAwerx 02-15-2005 07:45 PM

i thought the new cobras were supposed to be like 90gs.. and convertible, or is that a different mustang

street300zx 02-15-2005 08:40 PM

If Ford would have produced any car with there claimed specs then all the mustangs would have had great power. Reality Ford throws out bullshit claims of big power thats why Mustangs suck. I personally believe that the new mustang is ugly and should have never been produced. It only gives nice old mustangs like the GT500 a bad name. In reality the new mustang will either be the same power and speed as the 03 cobra our slower. Everyone they produced so far is slower then the before body style, the V6 and Gt add a hell of alot weight and run slower 1/4 times. The new power didn't make up for the new weight. Thats why I never believe specs till the car is produced. :_doh: :_doh: :_doh: :shrug:

xX03EXx 02-15-2005 08:45 PM

I like it.


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