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Old Jan 13, 2003
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lowered car problem???

i got my car lowered . . . h&r springs, 1.75in front and 1.5in rear. the springs are setteling in already and it starting to look real nice. the only problem is, at the rear, the left rear seems to bit a bit lower that the right rear and the front left seems a bit lower than the front right. it doesn't look bad or anything, you actually gotta look close to see it.

does anyone know if this is something bad for the car???
does anyone have the same problem???
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Not trying to be a jerk or anything but are you sure your car is on level ground?? My car looks like that all the time, when parked on a slight hill
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from what i understand they drop pretty evenly maybe a few days to settle. Could be a mind thing tho, i beleive they drop evenly tho so i wouldnt worry bout it let it settloe for a few days then see how it works out
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i have same spring in my 01 sedan and first week look the same as u say, let the time go and it will be ok i think ....
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mine looks like that also....i think it is because the front are stonger cause of the engine
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Maybe you put the 1.5' springs on the left side instead of the back [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]
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I know exactly what you are talking about. I have an '02 coupe lowered with Neuspeed Sport springs, and the left side is about 1/4" to 1/2" lower than the right side. I have had the springs ever since I bought the car, which has been about 9 months, and they have been like that the whole time. I won't have to worry about it much longer, though, because I am getting coilovers [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG].
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ya, i had the same problem. i lowered my car with goldline springs, about the same drop as yours, and i also had an eibach camber kit installed. it took about a week to settle and i still noticed a huge difference in the drop on the driver side compared to the passenger side but only in the back. my dad noticed, when driving behind me, that the driver side, the lower side, was way off camber. i took it to ntb and had them align it and re-adjust the camber and it sits almost even now. just a little more settling and it should be fine. i just got them installed a week ago saturday.
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As with Dave384, I have the Neuspeed Sports and also have the same problem with the driver side being lower. I have SPC camber kit in the rear, but have yet to get an alignment since I installed the camber kit. The car also pulls left or right when on uneven road. I believe that this is because my rear caster and camber are off quite a bit. Hopefully a good alignment will help me problems.
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Just so every body knows, roads are not flat. The have whats called a Crown. Meaning the road is sloped from the center to the outside. this is so the road drains water better. it also means that a perfictly alligned car will pull slightly to the right due to the crown. [IMG]i/expressions/beer_yum.gif[/IMG]
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I have the Neuspeed sports on my sedan with front and rear SPC kits. My ish is aligned..LOL Anyhow, my driver's side sits about a 1/4" lower than the passenger. I can get my index finger in the gap on the passenger side but not the driver's. I have had the springs on for a good 6 months and only noticed this about a month ago. I guess the car is heavier on that side or something....I don't know..

I think it's normal since quite a few of us have noticed the different drop on each side. I really don't think there is anything you could do to make this happen yourself, at least not knowingly. I was just worried that people would notice and think I was an idiot. However, my wife recently followed me when we were out doing something and she said she couldn't tell...
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Heh.. there's actually a TSB about this from Honda. On the last page It goes on to say this:

A Lean to the Left Is OK
NOTE: This article applies to all '98 and later Honda models, except Passport.
Most left-hand drive models sold in the US. are heavier on the left side than the right, so they tend to lean to the left when viewed from the rear. Since 1996, many models have been built with longer damper springs on the left side to counteract this tendency. Sometimes, a vehicle with a longer left clamper spring will lean to the right, unless there's someone sitting in the driver's seat. If it does this, but it's fairly level when someone's sitting in the seat, it's probably OK.

You can measure a vehicle's ride height by following these steps:
1. Remove all loose items from the trunk and the passenger's compartment. Make sure the tires are inflated to the recommended pressures listed on the door-jamb sticker.
2. Bounce both sides of the vehicle up and down to stabilize the suspension, being careful not to dent the fenders or the body panels.
3. Roll the vehicle forward and backward at least one full rotation of the wheels to remove anyflat spots on the tires.
4. At each wheel, measure through its centerline, the height from the floor to the bottom edge of the fender.

If your customer isn't exactly thrilled with the way his or her vehicle leans, compare it to an identical one with similar mileage. Keep in mind though, different transmissions, trim levels, and accessories can affect the way a vehicle leans.


I guess the civic wasnt built with longer springs on the left side. Makes you wonder if aftermarket spring makers are aware of this huh? Prolly not since it still seems to lean a little..
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I HAVE A SOLUTION.

While it may be somewhat labor-intensive, it tends to work pretty good.

If you have had your springs on for some time and have noticed that visually/physically there is less of a gap between your driver's side tires/fenderwell than your passenger side, take note...

Take the springs off the car and swap left to right/vis versa.

This helps tremendously.

However, another fix seems to be adding the Neuspeed front swaybar bushings and installing the Progress rear swaybar/tiebar combo. These two products cause the vehicle to sit almost completely level when on level ground. Reason being is that each side is resisting compression more than with the stock components.

Hopefully all this makes sense.
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[hr]Originally posted by: 3rdcivic
I HAVE A SOLUTION.

While it may be somewhat labor-intensive, it tends to work pretty good.

If you have had your springs on for some time and have noticed that visually/physically there is less of a gap between your driver's side tires/fenderwell than your passenger side, take note...

Take the springs off the car and swap left to right/vis versa.

This helps tremendously.

However, another fix seems to be adding the Neuspeed front swaybar bushings and installing the Progress rear swaybar/tiebar combo. These two products cause the vehicle to sit almost completely level when on level ground. Reason being is that each side is resisting compression more than with the stock components.

Hopefully all this makes sense.[hr]
Hey...this makes sens for me .....good thing!!

I've never noticed any difference with my gold line springs...!!


Eric

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Another possible solution is to install coil-overs if you like that type of setup.
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I have the same problem with the neuspeed sports / spc camber kits.... only thing is, last time i checked, i think i remember the passenger side to be lower.... ???????? [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG] odd. oh well, i don't think it's a big problem.
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I have goldlines and noticed the same thing!

the drivers side sits about 1/4" to a finger gap lower than the passenger side [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/IMG]

I attributed it to me doing the front passenger side, then the drivers front. Then the rear passenger, then the driver rear [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG] hehehe so basically, I learned how to do it on the RIGHT side of the car...and then did it properly on the LEFT side of the car [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]

but...I guess I might have actually done it right, based on flotsamm's post! [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]

(hopefully).
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