can we do the si motor swap?
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can we do the si motor swap?
I was wondering since the rsx-s engine swap is soo expensive could we do an engine swap with the base rsx or the si....i mean its still 160 hp and there is more potential with that rather than the d17....So would it be cheaper and is it possible?
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Yes, it's possible. But I don't know think it will be cheaper. The engine will probably be cheaper to buy. But the install process will probably be the same cost.
ya of course it's gonna be cheaper. i believe the base RSX's intake manifold doesn't clear our hoods or something like that, so you'd have to swap one out for a custom one or one from a SI. they're good engines, but i would first try the k24a from the 2003 accord 4-cyl's, the 2002-03 CR-V and the 2003 element.
edit: by cheaper i mean for parts, not labor!
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Rep Power: 0 I'm just interested in how much the Si engines would go for. I haven't seen any for sale and they would probably be not too much less than a K20A2 right now. I have been thinking about a K24 engine and it might not be that cheap just because of sourcing out the rest of the parts needed such as axles, radiator, mounts... I'm not sure if the Accors axles can be used but I'm gonna guess no. Once a swap comes in the range of 4000 when its said and done, I might look into it.
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[hr]Originally posted by: dragoon
ya of course it's gonna be cheaper. i believe the base RSX's intake manifold doesn't clear our hoods or something like that, so you'd have to swap one out for a custom one or one from a SI. they're good engines, but i would first try the k24a from the 2003 accord 4-cyl's, the 2002-03 CR-V and the 2003 element.
edit: by cheaper i mean for parts, not labor![hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: dragoon
ya of course it's gonna be cheaper. i believe the base RSX's intake manifold doesn't clear our hoods or something like that, so you'd have to swap one out for a custom one or one from a SI. they're good engines, but i would first try the k24a from the 2003 accord 4-cyl's, the 2002-03 CR-V and the 2003 element.
edit: by cheaper i mean for parts, not labor![hr]
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Rep Power: 0 dont bother swapping anything, just trade in your car for something else and use the money for the swap to put toward a trade...
i would suggest a VW 1.8T, Golf or Jetta, whatever you prefer, but anything German...you can't compare to japanese
i would suggest a VW 1.8T, Golf or Jetta, whatever you prefer, but anything German...you can't compare to japanese
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why? and i wouldn't swap the k20A4 cuz theres not much aftermarket supports for it. at least not as much as the K20A2.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Nuts
why? and i wouldn't swap the k20A4 cuz theres not much aftermarket supports for it. at least not as much as the K20A2.[hr]
k20a(1) = jdm integra type R
k20a2 = usdm rsx type S / jdm civic type R
k20a3 = usdm rsx / civic si
k20a4 = pulled out of the ****. no such thing.
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Rep Power: 0 you know what i say everyone should give me all your money and ill make a swap into my car then ill tell everyone how it goes. Hows that sound? 
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[hr]Originally posted by: WhopSi
dont bother swapping anything, just trade in your car for something else and use the money for the swap to put toward a trade...
i would suggest a VW 1.8T, Golf or Jetta, whatever you prefer, but anything German...you can't compare to japanese[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: WhopSi
dont bother swapping anything, just trade in your car for something else and use the money for the swap to put toward a trade...
i would suggest a VW 1.8T, Golf or Jetta, whatever you prefer, but anything German...you can't compare to japanese[hr]
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Rep Power: 0 ummmmm......no...and if i wanted to trade in i would have not even have bought the car in the first place......i bought it as a project car and i wanted to do an engine swap
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[hr]Originally posted by: woohooh00
check your engine designations.
k20a(1) = jdm integra type R
k20a2 = usdm rsx type S / jdm civic type R
k20a3 = usdm rsx / civic si
k20a4 = pulled out of the ****. no such thing.
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[hr]Originally posted by: Nuts
why? and i wouldn't swap the k20A4 cuz theres not much aftermarket supports for it. at least not as much as the K20A2.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Nuts
why? and i wouldn't swap the k20A4 cuz theres not much aftermarket supports for it. at least not as much as the K20A2.[hr]
k20a(1) = jdm integra type R
k20a2 = usdm rsx type S / jdm civic type R
k20a3 = usdm rsx / civic si
k20a4 = pulled out of the ****. no such thing.
cheers, to the unification of beer and civics.
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......i may have been a little drunk that night. i'm not an engine code kinda guy but wow K20A4. i'm dumb. mah baddddd 
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Rep Power: 0 Why would you want to do that swab
If you had read the Jan 2003 issue of Sport Compact Car you would have seen that the SI performed terribly out of 8 cars, the SI, SVT Focus, Mini Cooper, Protege, Senta SE-R Spec-V, Tuburon V6, VW GTI, and Dodge SRT-4, it placed last in quarter mile acceleration @16.2 sec @84.3mph, Torque @ 124 lb-ft @3300 rpm, and in horsepower @ 138 hp @ 6800 rpm. I think the EX does better than that. I would save for the RSX type-s swab thats the smart thing to do. IMO
The other info is directly out of the magazine by the way.
If you had read the Jan 2003 issue of Sport Compact Car you would have seen that the SI performed terribly out of 8 cars, the SI, SVT Focus, Mini Cooper, Protege, Senta SE-R Spec-V, Tuburon V6, VW GTI, and Dodge SRT-4, it placed last in quarter mile acceleration @16.2 sec @84.3mph, Torque @ 124 lb-ft @3300 rpm, and in horsepower @ 138 hp @ 6800 rpm. I think the EX does better than that. I would save for the RSX type-s swab thats the smart thing to do. IMO
The other info is directly out of the magazine by the way.
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[hr]Originally posted by: ncwcivic
Why would you want to do that swab
If you had read the Jan 2003 issue of Sport Compact Car you would have seen that the SI performed terribly out of 8 cars, the SI, SVT Focus, Mini Cooper, Protege, Senta SE-R Spec-V, Tuburon V6, VW GTI, and Dodge SRT-4, it placed last in quarter mile acceleration @16.2 sec @84.3mph, Torque @ 124 lb-ft @3300 rpm, and in horsepower @ 138 hp @ 6800 rpm. I think the EX does better than that. I would save for the RSX type-s swab thats the smart thing to do. IMO
The other info is directly out of the magazine by the way.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: ncwcivic
Why would you want to do that swab
If you had read the Jan 2003 issue of Sport Compact Car you would have seen that the SI performed terribly out of 8 cars, the SI, SVT Focus, Mini Cooper, Protege, Senta SE-R Spec-V, Tuburon V6, VW GTI, and Dodge SRT-4, it placed last in quarter mile acceleration @16.2 sec @84.3mph, Torque @ 124 lb-ft @3300 rpm, and in horsepower @ 138 hp @ 6800 rpm. I think the EX does better than that. I would save for the RSX type-s swab thats the smart thing to do. IMO
The other info is directly out of the magazine by the way.[hr]
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Rep Power: 0 Ya, I hear what you're sayin about just buyin a different car. Especially at how expensive these swaps are right now. Thats why I would wait or buy a different car. I've been lookin at the 99-00 Si's and I could trade up to one for about 2000 more. Then I would have a much better platform for modding. But, there is something about trying something new and swapping engines thats fun. I really should just trade up to the civic Si though. My .02
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Rep Power: 0 I think that the Si K20A3 into a 7th gen is cool. I guess cause Im doing it myself. Screw you guys with your type s and type r motors. not all of us have that kind of cash. So when I get done with my swap I will be one of a kind. Plus with a few mods Ill make up for the hp difference easliy
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if you havent owned an si however.....you would realize that their test average was very poor.......with only 2 runs at thee track...no mods....in florida during thee warm weather.....already breaking into thee low 16s high 15s with an 02 si......with slight mods...running mid 15s easier......those engines take very well to performance mods......and you can also purchase a comptech race header that will be putting roughly 13 hp down.....it might be wise to save up for thee s motor....but thee k20a3 is still a damn good consideration.....hell....our si is even runnin better times then thee grassroots si.....so i wouldnt trust thee mags when it comes to every test run[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG]
if you havent owned an si however.....you would realize that their test average was very poor.......with only 2 runs at thee track...no mods....in florida during thee warm weather.....already breaking into thee low 16s high 15s with an 02 si......with slight mods...running mid 15s easier......those engines take very well to performance mods......and you can also purchase a comptech race header that will be putting roughly 13 hp down.....it might be wise to save up for thee s motor....but thee k20a3 is still a damn good consideration.....hell....our si is even runnin better times then thee grassroots si.....so i wouldnt trust thee mags when it comes to every test run
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Rep Power: 376 Mags are not accurate at all. I've seen people running 15.8 stock with the new SI. I was going to swap a K20A3 in my coupe instead on a K20A2 for one simple reason. Compression. Its alot lower and better for boost. And you can get the motors cheap. But due to a wreck I got rid of my coupe and bought a SI. Which I got for a good price. And the reason for there has not been very many parts out is due to the car not being out very long, and it not selling very good. But do not fear, many many companies are working on parts right now. Jackson racing will be releasing a full race header and a supercharger by august. And Revhard released their turbo kit last month. Along with many more kits soon to be released. It just takes time. 
i hear that they have the jackson supercharger kit for the k20a2. would it be worth it to get that instead of getting a custom made turbo. jackson says they push like 5-6 psi and not have to worry about turbo lag. i need to decide this when the motor arrives prolly on monday
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