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Hi, have a '04 EX sedan, and the wheel is gross on top, no skin at all. Wanted to get a new one from Majestic... but there are two sections in the fiche, SRS (1) and SRS (2).

EDIT 05 MAR 14: FOR US AND CANADA, ORDER FROM SRS (1); just put mine in (it's a Canadian '04 EX sedan, "2HG").

SRS (1)'s wheel is #3 -- 78501-S5D-J61ZA WHEEL, STEERING *NH167L*:




SRS (2)'s wheel is #3 also -- 78501-S5A-J61ZA GRIP *NH167L*:




Is (2) for the side airbag option, or is (2) simply superseding (1)?

Damned shame as (2) is $200+ more than (1), and I'd hate to get (2) if I only needed (1) due to not having side bags.

 
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Well I guess an easy question is does your wheel say SRS on it?

 
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Go back to the parts catalog and enter your VIN instead of picking your car from the option list....

That should narrow down your choices.

 
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Talked to my dealer parts guy this AM... he told me SRS (1) was the fiche for my ES2, and as ezone pointed out, used the VIN to determine this. Thank gawd, one $70 wheel on the way... he explained that SRS (1) was the fiche for US Civics, while SRS (2) was for JDM Civics, he didn't know if it meant JDM cars for the Japan only, or JDM-manufactured for the US.

I ask because usually Hawaii Hondas were JDM-manufactured until ~2013, and my airbag has the 'SRS' relief on it (so USDM 2004 Civics also have this). This is a common thing to happen (details missing from fiche drawings) on Honda powersports fiches, which I'm very familiar with. That's all I was wondering. My part is the $200+-cheaper one, so happy.

EDIT: just for due diligence, I did add my VIN to Majestic's site -- they still listed both SRS (1) and SRS (2) as choices. Same on 1hondaparts.

 
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Man, I swore real microfiche was obsolete a good 20 years ago. The last time I saw brand new Fiche was for the Twin Turbo RX-7.


Check your VIN, what does it begin with?


That's US BUILT Civics, VIN begins with "1" (also VINs beginning with 4 and 5 are USA built)

The wheel # 78501-S5D-J61ZA is for USA built AND Canadian built cars.
A Canadian built VIN would begin with a "2".

I'm going to guess your parts person to be rather green with Hondas parts?
The JPN designation in the US parts catalog does not say or mean JDM. It means for vehicles "manufactured in Japan".
Huge difference.
If the vehicles VIN begins with "J", it was manufactured in Japan.
That doesn't mean JDM (Japanese Domestic Market means built for original sale in Japan), it only means the car was manufactured in Japan.
If it was originally sold in the USA market, it had to be built to USA market specifications, even if it was built in Japan.


A regular Honda dealer in the USA can't look up anything for a JDM vehicle, nor any other market vehicle other than USA.
Hondas US information systems won't even recognize a Canadian market (built for sale in Canada) VIN, even though we have plenty of US market cars built in Canada.

There's also Mexico built ("3") other USA plants ("4", and "5") and many more VIN designations that cover plants in countries worldwide.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle...#Country_codes


HTH

 
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True. However not in the powersports world. They have a lot of catching up to do with the automotive sector. The much-higher profit margin for cars vs. powersports may have something to do with that. I was still using scratched-up plastic fiches to look up bike parts on Hondas as late as 2006. 'Fiche' as a term though, doesn't mean specifically a plastic overhead card -- many of the Big Four dealers I'd used (like Yamaha) had electronic parts catalogs, but still referred to each image of exploded parts as the 'fiche'. Old habits die hard.


A "2". Apparently, I have a Canuck Civic! :P

He's not new, if that's what you mean. Same dude's been there for at least ten years now. However, unwilling to go beyond simply parroting procedure without understanding what any of it means? That I can believe. That's life on an island with one Honda dealer for you...

Thanks for the insight -- he probably wasn't able to do much with my VIN, as he's not used to looking for "2" as the first digit. BTW "J" & "1" as the first digit is the same for powersports as it is for cars -- had to ask since I too was not used to seeing "2", even though I worked on lots of Bombardier/Sea-Doo vehicles, which are CDN-made, and explained above.

None of that however, adequately explains why there are two fiches for the steering wheel assembly on a 2004 Civic. Just asked so no one else has to visit a dealer in order to find out which wheel parts to buy, as entering my Canuck VIN brought up both fiches. When a US VIN is entered, does one of these choices go away? If you buy the wrong wheel, none of the major components under the airbag will fit from the other one, which is why I thought it was a supercession at first.