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ok guys, so with christmas coming, and a little extra cash i was thinking about getting a remote start and alarm for my car. only problem is, im manual, can remote start be done? and also, whats a good system to go with?
It can but dont leave it in gear like I did a while back. Damn car jumped the curb lol. I dont know how they did mine but you have to do a clutch bypass so that the car will start without pushing in the clutch. I have an avital alarm.
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You need a Peripheral NSS to deal with the manual.
Clutch bypass
85 negative starter output (small gauge purple ususally)
86 12V
30 ground
87 light green wire at the clutch
Edit: I actually implemented this relay setup in my car this last week.
Don't be the guy who's car crashes thru some store because you left it in first. Get that Peripheral piece, it is going to be about 80 bucks but it's worth it. There's also a brand or two of starter out there designed to integrate similar to the Peripheral guy but I don't know brand names off the top of my head for those either.
Clutch bypass
85 negative starter output (small gauge purple ususally)
86 12V
30 ground
87 light green wire at the clutch
Edit: I actually implemented this relay setup in my car this last week.
Don't be the guy who's car crashes thru some store because you left it in first. Get that Peripheral piece, it is going to be about 80 bucks but it's worth it. There's also a brand or two of starter out there designed to integrate similar to the Peripheral guy but I don't know brand names off the top of my head for those either.
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Look into the Compustar alarm/starter combo. www.compustar.com
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Rep Power: 247 You need a Peripheral NSS to deal with the manual.
Clutch bypass
85 negative starter output (small gauge purple ususally)
86 12V
30 ground
87 light green wire at the clutch
Edit: I actually implemented this relay setup in my car this last week.
Don't be the guy who's car crashes thru some store because you left it in first. Get that Peripheral piece, it is going to be about 80 bucks but it's worth it. There's also a brand or two of starter out there designed to integrate similar to the Peripheral guy but I don't know brand names off the top of my head for those either.
Clutch bypass
85 negative starter output (small gauge purple ususally)
86 12V
30 ground
87 light green wire at the clutch
Edit: I actually implemented this relay setup in my car this last week.
Don't be the guy who's car crashes thru some store because you left it in first. Get that Peripheral piece, it is going to be about 80 bucks but it's worth it. There's also a brand or two of starter out there designed to integrate similar to the Peripheral guy but I don't know brand names off the top of my head for those either.
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Rep Power: 379 I disconnected mine. It's a liabilty. Read this:
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Rep Power: 331 ive had my remote start since 2002, i have never had a problem and i have a switch to turn the remote start feature off in case i actually have to leave the car in gear. hook up the neutral safety to the ebrake and call it good.
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Rep Power: 247 I disconnected mine. It's a liabilty. Read this:
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Rep Power: 379 Few things. One, your car will move with the ebrake on, try it. Two, depending on how you set up your remote start (off RPM wire, or timed crank (mostly for older carb'ed vehicles)) your car will continue to crank until it acheives the setting you've selected. With this in mind the car may continue to crank for sometime.
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Rep Power: 247 i actually have tried it in the parking lot, pulled the e-brake and let off and my car died, so next time i popped the clutch and was in third gear spinning at about 60mph before i felt it starting to move.
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Rep Power: 379 Pull the handle, put it in first, don't touch the clutch and let it crank for about 20 seconds. Keep in mind you prolly won't remember to pull the lever all the way up everytime. Typically, you leave the car in neutral and pull the ebrake. I did it for years. Just keep in mind that all it takes is one time that you don't pull it all the way to the top..
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Rep Power: 263 im not really sure what all of this means, but, where might i get this stuff, and learn about all of this. and this is only the stuff to bypass the clutch right? and another question, there is that little black box on the clutch, is that a sensor to unsure the clutch is depressed? also, i did check that website, some pretty neat stuff there, am going to e-mail them and see what they can do for me. thanks for all your help so far and your support guys.
All the numbers are just the relay wiring to bypass the clutch. To start your car with the key the light green wire at the clutch has to see a ground. This happens when you push the clutch all the way in. The relay does the same thing for the brief period that voltage is applied to the starter wire. You have to do it if you want the car to start.
Again, it can be done safely but it depends on how it is installed. Plan on doing it yourself or are you looking for a shop?? You can learn more about it by asking me whatever questions you have.
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Rep Power: 247 Peripheral NSS either on the internet or from the company itself. This is really just a reminder module. You have to do a takeover every time you get out of the car before you lock/arm it and then you're allowed to remote start it once until the system is unlocked/disarmed again. However, when properly installed you will not be able to remote start your car in gear.
All the numbers are just the relay wiring to bypass the clutch. To start your car with the key the light green wire at the clutch has to see a ground. This happens when you push the clutch all the way in. The relay does the same thing for the brief period that voltage is applied to the starter wire. You have to do it if you want the car to start.
Again, it can be done safely but it depends on how it is installed. Plan on doing it yourself or are you looking for a shop?? You can learn more about it by asking me whatever questions you have.
All the numbers are just the relay wiring to bypass the clutch. To start your car with the key the light green wire at the clutch has to see a ground. This happens when you push the clutch all the way in. The relay does the same thing for the brief period that voltage is applied to the starter wire. You have to do it if you want the car to start.
Again, it can be done safely but it depends on how it is installed. Plan on doing it yourself or are you looking for a shop?? You can learn more about it by asking me whatever questions you have.
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Rep Power: 263 I would say with a manual it is a must have, you can sleep easy at night knowing you can never start your car in gear.
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Rep Power: 337 remote start in a manual could NOT be easier to implement wholly safely. It will cost you $5. here is how you do it:
buy a magnetic reed switch from a surplus store or radioshack. chances are it will be long and slender, like a pen cap. this can fit in the hole of some plumbers backstrapping, youll cut a 3-4 inch length.
on the drivers side of your stick shift, alight the reed switch so its aiming at the round pin section where the linkage hooks up. dont worry about distance too much, you can adjust that with the backstrapping (make sure its heavy duty backstrapping!)
your backstrapping will press agasint the plastic housing of the shift linkage. put a screw in it.
next, find a magnet and glue it to that shift linkage. with the car in ANY gear, the magnet will not be directly in front of the reed switch.
next, ground one of the two wires for the switch. using a multimeter or test light, test the opposite side of the reed switch. (I use a DVM set to sense continuity with one lead grounded) I then adjust the backstrapping so I read continuity in neautral, read open in first or second gear, and not collide with the reed switch when I bring the stick over to put the car into first or second.
once that is done, I connect a single wire to the free end of the reed switch and route it to the pedal assembly. At this point I reassemble the center console.
last step is to tap the clutch sense wire and plug in my free end, and I am DONE.
there is no interfacing between the clutch and the remote start, there is no interfacing between the stick and the alarm, there are no relays.
so how does this work? it uses the sensor to bypass your clutch, but ONLY when the stick is in neutral. It works magnetically, so it works whether you are parked on flat ground or a hill. When you are in gear and activate the remote start, the car will sense the clutch and refuse to run the ignition. When you are in neutral, the clutch will be bypassed and the remote start operates.
and most importantly, if ANY part of this system fails for any reason, the default position is clutch not bypassed, and the remote start will fail to operate.
...and this costs roughly $5 to do.
I have a blurry picture of my reed switch installed but no upload space. I am willing to email it to those who request it via email or AIM (I will only send an email via aim request when I am not idle).
buy a magnetic reed switch from a surplus store or radioshack. chances are it will be long and slender, like a pen cap. this can fit in the hole of some plumbers backstrapping, youll cut a 3-4 inch length.
on the drivers side of your stick shift, alight the reed switch so its aiming at the round pin section where the linkage hooks up. dont worry about distance too much, you can adjust that with the backstrapping (make sure its heavy duty backstrapping!)
your backstrapping will press agasint the plastic housing of the shift linkage. put a screw in it.
next, find a magnet and glue it to that shift linkage. with the car in ANY gear, the magnet will not be directly in front of the reed switch.
next, ground one of the two wires for the switch. using a multimeter or test light, test the opposite side of the reed switch. (I use a DVM set to sense continuity with one lead grounded) I then adjust the backstrapping so I read continuity in neautral, read open in first or second gear, and not collide with the reed switch when I bring the stick over to put the car into first or second.
once that is done, I connect a single wire to the free end of the reed switch and route it to the pedal assembly. At this point I reassemble the center console.
last step is to tap the clutch sense wire and plug in my free end, and I am DONE.
there is no interfacing between the clutch and the remote start, there is no interfacing between the stick and the alarm, there are no relays.
so how does this work? it uses the sensor to bypass your clutch, but ONLY when the stick is in neutral. It works magnetically, so it works whether you are parked on flat ground or a hill. When you are in gear and activate the remote start, the car will sense the clutch and refuse to run the ignition. When you are in neutral, the clutch will be bypassed and the remote start operates.
and most importantly, if ANY part of this system fails for any reason, the default position is clutch not bypassed, and the remote start will fail to operate.
...and this costs roughly $5 to do.
I have a blurry picture of my reed switch installed but no upload space. I am willing to email it to those who request it via email or AIM (I will only send an email via aim request when I am not idle).
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Rep Power: 239 yeah, its bad to get on a manual car, heres my story: I work at a subaru dealership, and a customer brings in his 400whp STI for an oil change, i park the car in the back(i am a valet parker for the service department), and noone told me it had remote start(the remote didnt identify its functions), so long story short.....i almost got fired because an STI crashed itself into a truck.
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Rep Power: 239 o yeah, and this doesn't matter, my man's manual 240sx doesnt require a clutch to start, it can be bypassed or something to make it unneccessary to press the clutch to start the car.
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