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Old Aug 31, 2006
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Swaping D16y8 into 7th gen?

I got my old 97 ex motor out back, was wondering if it was possible to swap a 6th gen motor into my 7th gen. It shouldnt matter but it is a 97ex D16y8, into a 04ex 4dr.
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PM Black99VTEC, He was the first member to "do this", well at least he showed a lot of pictures and talked a lot of ****.

Is it possible? Yes. The bigger question is...Why? Why swap in an older motor that's going to require tons of custom crap to go in. Just put that money towards a K20A3 or something.
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Originally Posted by civydcex
I got my old 97 ex motor out back, was wondering if it was possible to swap a 6th gen motor into my 7th gen. It shouldnt matter but it is a 97ex D16y8, into a 04ex 4dr.
Why?
d17 is a modern version of d16....unless you like retro of course
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7thgen Civic's are faster then 6th gen so why swap?
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The why is easy... there's a billion parts for them, and its built a bit more stout than the D17. The bigger matter is mounting it, converting the car for a rod-link transmission and then raising the issue of the legality of it, because you can't replace an engine with one that is older than the car is... legally.
For the amount of time, money and effort it would take, and the "gain" it would afford you, drop in a K.
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Originally Posted by Boilermaker1
then raising the issue of the legality of it, because you can't replace an engine with one that is older than the car is... legally.
I'm not meaning to pick on anyone I am just wanting to clear up a foggy issue. I myself thought that's how the law worked until I did some research. You can put any motor in any car that you want to. The emissions system just has to meet the requirements for whichever is newer, the motor or the car. Which in his case he would have to meet the requirements of the 7thgen.
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you can't replace an engine with one that is older than the car is... legally.
Here, in Southern Ontario, you can drop any engine into any car, as long as it meets emissions for the production year of the car. In Northern Ontario they dont have emission test at all.

Unless government goes **** with you, there is no need to notify them that engine is different than what it initialy was.

And I wouldnt drop d16 into 7th gen - too much to pay and too little to gain.
As it's said already, k20/k24 whould be a better way.
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Originally Posted by sleekcivic2004
I'm not meaning to pick on anyone I am just wanting to clear up a foggy issue. I myself thought that's how the law worked until I did some research. You can put any motor in any car that you want to. The emissions system just has to meet the requirements for whichever is newer, the motor or the car. Which in his case he would have to meet the requirements of the 7thgen.
My understanding is what you have said also, but wouldnt that also mean it would ahve to run on the D17 ECM, and have all the D17 emission componets on the car functioning?
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The emission components yes, ecu no.
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Dude...... why does everyone worry about what the government will do..... There are tons and tons of things you can do you dont need 2 tell anyone...... just swap the motor do what you gotta do..... pay one of your boys like i did with my 91 accord H22 swap to do the inspection and your straight..... believe me it helps being in the "know"..... its the easiest way.... and why ask here if you wanna do something just do it.... if you know what your doin why does it matter what anyone else thinks....... people told me you cant swap a H series head onto a F Series block I say WHY THE HELL NOT!!! then i just bolted it on...... H23 on a F22 Block.... non V - Tech Sold it..... Last i heard it ran great....... ok thats enough of me l8r
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Originally Posted by D3xn2o
pay one of your boys like i did with my 91 accord H22 swap to do the inspection and your straight
Since EVERYBODY has a boy that works in inspection, that's a great idea! Why didn't everyone think of getting a boy that works in inspection sooner?

That kinda sounds like a politician's campaign promise

"I will put a chicken in every pot...and a boy in every inspection center"




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ok thats enough of me l8r
That's the best news I've heard all day

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Originally Posted by 01HonderCivic
Since EVERYBODY has a boy that works in inspection, that's a great idea! Why didn't the everyone think of getting a boy that works in inspection sooner?

That kinda sounds like a politician's campaign promise

"I will put a chicken in every pot...and a boy in every inspection center"






That's the best news I've heard all day

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I actually had a hard time clicking quote you after reading this , i was laughing sooooo hard i couldnt control the mouse! BTW where i have emsssions test dont they scan the ECM as part of the test....... Im pretty sure it has to be of the same year or newer. But i could be wrong
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They emissions test in Idaho?
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Yeah its very possible and if you have emissions its VERY illegal. Swap in a b16 while your doing it you can pick up b16s for pretty cheap now adays
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Originally Posted by 01HonderCivic
They emissions test in Idaho?
in ada county (where i live) Yes
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