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can someboy here recommend me coilovers that will go with OEM shocks, which nothing will get screwed up. i duno if this is a repost, i coldnt find it in search. thx in advance.

 
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no such thing

 
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only thing that pairs up with the OEM struts are the OEM springs. therefore, no coilovers out on the market that wont stress out your OEM struts. i wish there were springs/coilovers that pair up perfectly with the OEM struts but it just wont happen.


but i do know that skunk2 coilovers are meant to go with OEM struts fitment wise, NOT performance wise.

 
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true coilovers come with pretty decent struts/shocks already....i would think you would need to upgrade them with sleeves though...

 
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There are ground controls for OEM shocks but I dont believe in that too much.

 
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When they say they fit the OEM shocks, that just means that they are designed to fit the dementions of the OEM shock, not the damper rates....

 
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Yes and no. I talked to GC, the rates are different.

 
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Seriously? Eh.... Low spring rates with a low ride height = bottom out car alot. Doesnt sound like too good of an idea..

 
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I know, that was wierd to me as well. I guess its for the more "comfortable" ride. I totally agree with you. its about 50LBS front and rear difference.

ZZyzx what are you running now? Eibach ERS?

 
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I have Eibach sportlines with Koni dampers... soon to be changed out with a nice set of Ground controls once $$ becomes more avalible... Buying a house makes you so poor.

 
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Amen!

 
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double amen to that.

I need EX head, eManage w/all sensors, e-01, internals.

Damn money sucks! But a brand new house is soooooooooooo nice.

 
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^Heh The hard part about a owning a house is that you can either look at it like you just got $XXX,XXX in to debt... or you just made $XXX,XXX in equity.. personally, I hate debt.

 
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This is way off topic, but my wife was reading that having a house in a specific zip code is more beneficial than savings/iras/mutual funds/stocks, etc. If you live in the right place, owning a home is a gold mine.

 
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Dude, you mentioned the 50lbs difference. This is starting to get confusing. Can we all clarify this... I searched and read that Boilermaker has called Ground Controls and it seems the rates for the fronts are 375lbs and the rears are 425lbs. And from more searching, I know that Boiler dude is using konis. So the above rates should be for the GC koni kit. Thus, can I say that the 50lbs difference you mentioned would mean the GC kit for OEM shocks have rates of 325lbs front and 375lbs rear?

 
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Actually I don't think this is true according to my conversations with GC. They swear that you CANNOT under any circumstances use less than a 375 lb front spring. I know this because I tried to buy 350s and they absolutely REFUSED to sell me them. Regardless of what the rates are, they're too high for stock dampers. The stock rates are almost too high for the stock dampers (which is why everyone's shocks are blowing prematurely). I don't know, I honestly think the GC spec rates are FUBAR. I had them for 4 days and hated them, not to mention the rear springs they insist are correct for the kit are too short. Something tells me they put a kit out based on what they make for the older Civics and figured out the suspension differences after the face.
I'd find out the lengths and rates for the RSX kit.... which comes with the 6" rear spring that you need for this car as well.

 
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My guess is that GC wants to make sure you don't have coil bind. I've been looking at rates in the 200 range and you just can't do it with 2.5" coilover springs unless you go reeeeaaaallly long and you'd need to move the spring perch much lower than stock which might cause tire clearance issues. Honda uses the large diameter to get low spring rates and lots of space between coils with a reasonable length spring. To get a low rate with 2.5" springs you have to have lots of wire, and little space between the coils, so they stack up quickly unless they are long to begin with. The high rate 2.5" springs have less wire, more space, thus more travel.

 
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Oh yeah, I agree with you that the GC rates/lengths for our cars seem off. It just seems like they haven't got the rear motion ratio right and minor mistakes in calculation of the arm lengths make a major difference in wheel rate. Are you happy with the way yours are now?

 
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You hated them? I recalled that you mentioned they perform as well as a full coilover. Could you share with us the rates and lengths you have on your car now?

 
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I hated the stock GC rates. with such a little difference between the front and back the car was aweful.
I bumped it up 100 lbs and it became much better.

I'm using the standard front spring, its 375 lb-in, 7" I believe.
The rears are 525 lb, 6" springs. (100 lbs stiffer and 1" longer)

 
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Do you find the front rates high enough? Or is there still quite a significant amount of roll? I have a '01 sedan and I know that roll bars affect roll resistance. But somehow I feel that the springs do play a part too. At the moment I am on some progressive 285lbs front springs, but it seems they aren't stiff enough to my liking. Do you think the 375lbs linear springs up front will get significantly stiffer than my current progressive setup? I believe the 285lbs rate only comes in at very very hard turns. Therefore with 375lbs linear, should I expect a huge difference? Any comments on your rear rates as well ? Too stiff?