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hey everyone, my friend and i are underway with the e-manage/SLP return fuel kit/rsx injector install. we were ready to begin wiring up the e-manage but there are a few things we are unsure of. taken from the e-manage DIY:

we were stumped first about the ignition wiring, regarding the INs and OUTs. i just want someone to clarify at the IN side is the harness side, and the OUT side is the engine side?

second, we are not sure how to go about connecting the wires for the harnesses. the DIY doesn't specify which wires need to be tapped, or actually cut and spliced. we may just be over analyzing stuff, but is every wire tapped into the ECU harness, or are there specific wires which should be cut entirely? if you can get more specific, should the injector wires be cut, or are they tapped?

sidenote: it's being installed on an EX, and we are not hooking up the wires for the VTEC (don't wanna bother trying to get it to work properly). we plan to use the 4 unused wires from the ignition harness and the 3 vtec wires on the main harness to make up the 7 wires needed for the injector harness.

any insight you can offer is greatly appreciated. we have til sunday to finish

 
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Ok, Power is tapped into, ground is tapped, RPM is tapped, Your Airflow/ Map wires are cut, VTM is cut, injector wires just tap into the ECU,the ignition wires are cut into the ECU, with the in wires going into the ECU and the out wires out to the ignition...good luck and keep asking so you don't mess up!

 
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Consult the GReddy manual, our engine wiring schematics and the FAQ, and there should be NO problems installing.

http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=186443

 
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If you don't run the wires for vtec, you won't be able to adjust it.

 
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just an update, we've got the RSX injectors in and the return system is complete. I started her up and everything runs like new, fuel pressure set at 44psi. it is throwing a CEL though. about to begin wiring for the e-manage...

 
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Thats no surprise a CEL with rsx injectors and no fuel management

 
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yep, the only CEL we have is we're running too rich

we've installed the e-manage, we're all finished!

now onto the problem. we can't get the support tool to connect. because the manual is in japanese i'm not sure what order to install things in, but i installed the e-manage CD, downloaded the update file from mohdparts, installed that, then tried to connect using a usb->serial adapter. i purchased a dynex one, we couldn't get it to connect, then we tried a belkin one, same thing. i understand andyman97 was able to use the dynex one (purchased mine from best buy) so i'm assuming the problem may be with someone else. we checked the com ports and everything.

 
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possibly try un-installing the software and reinstall with out the updates just to check see if it connects

 
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ok, we've got the support tool working. thanks for the advice project complete.

now i just need to fins a place around here to get it dyno tuned.. i've got massive blue smoke coming from the exhaust. rich? hells yeah. the drive home i was getting 20mpg.

also, the only cel: P1129 "Heated Oxygen Sensor Signals reversed"

 
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Uh, hate to tell you but blue smoke is oil. Black smoke is fuel and bluish/gray is coolant. If you have alot of condensation in your exhaust, that's a bad thing.

 
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yeah sounds like you o2 sensor has water on the sensor. not a good thing. and the smoke should be black not blue

 
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hmm. would any of these symptoms come from running rich on fuel? the smoked looked more black to me, but another friend of mine said it looked blue, so i dunno what to think.

also, i can't go above 83mph.. the RPM acts as if there's a rev-limiter at that speed.

 
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where did you wire the rpm wire to?

 
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connector E, pin 26

 
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when you run the support tool click on the real time data and check the display and rev the car to make sure that it is right. do you have a missing link or your voltage clamp hooked up?

 
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yeah, that's working fine. i have the missing link installed.

 
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the missing link with the emanage at the same time screws up your partial throttle tunning. I suggest you take it off and set your voltage clamp to 4.5 all the way across the board. It sounds like that is your problem

 
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what is the voltage clamp, and how can i adjust it? hah, feel like a newb again

edit: n/m, the search tool came in handy. thanks

 
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here are the 3 maps i'm not sure what to set at.. any input?



would the voltage clamp be the anti-engine stall or boost limiter?

 
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Boost limiter, but are you even running turbo yet?

 
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i have the wastegate open until it's ready to be tuned.

here's a few more issues, my car idles at around 600rpm.

also when accelelrating from a stop, if i press on the gas a little too hard, the car starts to rev up as normal then cuts out and stalls after a second.

gas mileage is also horrible, about 18mpg. i'm guessing all these problems will be relieved once the car is tuned in a couple days.

i did plug in the injector correction of 240 -> 320 for the RSX injectors..

 
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Make sure to try and get those CELs worked out before you go to the dyno. CELs F everything up and they wont be able to tune your car anywhere near as good if you are tripping engine lights.

 
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Nice work! Let's see some pics

 
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ok, CEL P1129 has gone away, but now i have P0401 "Exhaust Gas Recirculation Flow Insufficient" maybe because it's getting too much fuel?

 
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Ok, so what are ALL your current problems?

 
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Is your EGR valve plugged in???

 
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the EGR valve? where is that located? i don't recall disconnecting anything like that.

my current problems are the low idle (600rpm), car sometimes stalls when accelerating from a stop (rpms just hesitate to pick up), running rich.. the faint smoke when idling is indeed black, and also i noticed the exhaust spitting outfine black droplets onto the curb behind it.

3 days til tuning day... i'm hoping that will resolve these problems/error codes.

 
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Its running really rich dude. You didnt do the injector correction thing backwards right?? Also are all the rotary switches and jumpers set right with your emanage?? Your EGR valve is located on your thermostat housing,its the big cylinder looking thing. If its not unplugged it may just be tripping that code because your car is running so horribly. I know that its always bad to lean a car out without a wideband but at idle RPMs, like 0-1500 cut it back 3-5% at a time untill it clears up a bit. Don't take out more than 20% though. It should clear up your idle at least.

 
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i hate to sound like such a newb, but i don't know what to do when it comes to tuning. i'm not sure what to change on the e-manage to lean out the car a bit.

 
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When is it going RICH on ya ?