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ok so, i got this idea on how to help my car from leaning out above 8psi when i go to the track and watnot without buying injectors and E-01 etc...

i bought a cheater fuel solenoid from NX and a nitrous/fuel fan sprayer, and im gonna borrow my freinds fuel cell and in line pump.

my idea is to inject fuel like nitrous into the charge pipe to help get more fuel into the motor during more boost then the stock injectors can handle. im gonna put the solenoid on a TPS switch so when im at full throttle its open. im gonna use some carburator jets to meter the fuel coming from the cell.

if the injected fuel makes up for fuel that isnt getting through the injectors i dont see why it wont work, whole thing cost me 50 bucks, any input?

 
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That doesn't seem like it would be very accurate. It's basically like a ghetto additional injector setup. If you can get it to work right, you'll probably be running really rich at low RPM's. A Hobb's switch might work better than a WOT switch but I still wouldn't be crazy about this idea. If you're going to do this, you might as well just inject alcohol/ water.

 
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id say both WOT and boost switch and its possible to make it work , but then you would be better off just buying some sub-injectors with some sort of controller

 
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You are using this for the track only ????

You do know that a lean condition = more power. It sounds to me that you will actually run too rich and lose power. You are better off using a water/methanol injection kit.

 
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I'd say get an HKS AIC before you blow sometihng up

 
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using a WOT switch will trigger the solenoid at WOT, not at above 8psi, so you'll be running pig rich

ARe you running the stock pump? It probably won't handle the extra load. You NEED a wideband.

You could have puddling if you're not careful.

 
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I agree^^

 
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i dont think you guys are getting what im talking about. first off civic01ctec, when im running to 1/4 i get to a point in which the car wont accelerate any more becaue im so lean, i know lean is better then hella rich, but for some reason im like crazy lean. and second off havok2k1 im not using my stock fuel pump to supply the solenoid, i got a seperate tank and inline pump. third offf, i will tune the shot by trialing it with different metering jets, so hopefully i can get the best of bottem end, and top end without running really rich. i get the parts monday, ill let you guys know

 
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if you are getting to the point where the car wont accelerate any more because there is no more fuel you are doing serious damage to the engine. You may be able to get this setup to work with a progressive nitrous controller but it will be extremely expensive. other than that you wont have good luck. Its a simple idea and a good thought but if it were that easy we would have seen people do it already. If you try the solenoid deal dont use it anywhere but on the track because if you use them on the street all the time you will burn them out quite fast. I understand your thinking on this but fuel maps are based on 3 things. load, rpm, and throttle position. if its a wot deal you can eliminate one of those but not all. like these guys said, you would be better off spending money on a alchy injection kit.

 
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No, lean = blowing motors, hella rich = less power but safe motor.
How about when the car isn't at WOT, which is the majority of the time and this is also where fuel is important. You cna blow stuff here too although not as easily as WOT. Dude, don't ghetto it out, just do it right.

 
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Tuning games are best left to professionals. I just hafta shake my head because this is such a joke. In all my years tuning cars not one person has ever listened when I told them that. I guess you hafta learn the hard way. I have seen more burnt pistons and blown engines than a can count because of people trying to be "innovative". I wish you luck on this but I don't think you are going to make out very well. Im not trying to be a jerk, I'm trying to save you the cost and agrivation of buying and installing a new motor.

 
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no, i know your not being a jerk, thanks for the serious and knowlegeable input. well the parts are coming, and i will say that im gonna try it, but i think you might be right on this one, only thing i got to say is that i tried it, lol.

thanks man

 
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Yeah Im not being a **** or anything. Try it maybe it will work out for what you are doing, who knows. If its just a wot track situation with a progressive nos controller that can read off the TPS you almost could do it, but the fuel also doesnt atomize very well without the nitrous going through other side of the nozzle. If you are going for it, at least spend like 80 bucks to try it out on a few dyno pulls with a wideband. Then you will have a better understanding of whats actually happening. Going lean is pretty much the worst thing you can do to your motor unless you fill the crankcase to the top with sand. Its not to be taken lightly and it can destroy a stock motor faster than you can say "oops I f*cked up" TTYL man

 
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http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/me...de=ATP-BCS-003

If you're going to try it you might want to use this switch instead of a WOT switch.

 
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this is exactly what i am thinking. just spraying fuel with no n20 or even pressurized 02 the fuel gets squirted in like a squirt gun. the pressurized n20 or 02 atomizes the fuel the way it should be and gets a nice mist instead of a squirt. the squirt effect may also puddle up in your intake manifold if you do it too long.

 
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i have that switch, and i might as well use it, thanks