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Old Jun 16, 2005
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NEW 07 camry spy pics.

07 camry
i think it is very much Lexus inspired.
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looks good to me...
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doesn't look that different, and all cars look alike these days
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isnt lexus and toyota the same company?
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looks better than the usdm accord IMO.
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i like it better than the current model
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yeh the 07 camry is a total redesign, while the one spy shot of accord we just saw are MMC (mid model change) so inorder to compete with the redesign of the camry, we have to wait for the 08 accord model.
technically, the new gen camry goes out a year before the new gen accord does. just like this gen. the new camry came out 02 while the new accord came out 03. good marketing for toyota to step ahead of the game.

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Honda is good at waiting. Patience is the key. They can see what Toyota has up their sleeve before Honda brings out what it has...

It looks really sharp, which is great for a Toyota.
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there's are pros and cons of having to sell a car early/late.

selling new gen early:
pros:
they will get more sales because the consumer wanted to have something "different" against others currently available on the market

cons:
possible of being outvalued by other competitors.


selling new gen late:
pros:
company has the advantage to counter compete, and would know what to bring on the table

cons:
only the hardcore consumers would wait for a specific car remodel(i.e. accord, camry).
consumers would have brought the competitors's model prior to the late release.

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its not like the boat they have now. looks nice
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its not like the boat they have now. looks nice
yeah there camry now sucks.. it looks like ****
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Originally Posted by thomusvoo
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isnt lexus and toyota the same company?
Um No....Lexus is lexus and toyota is toyota. They are both owned by toyota motor corporation. They arent the same but then again they kinda are....lexus is the son of toyota motors
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Um No....Lexus is lexus and toyota is toyota. They are both owned by toyota motor corporation. They arent the same but then again they kinda are....lexus is the son of toyota motors
Um Yes.... they are the same company. it's more of a marketing ploy in NORTH America to charge more for premium models. just look at Acura and HONDA, Infiniti to Nissan, etc. if you look at the japanese websites, they are all under Honda, Nissan, Toyota. however i heard that Japan is trying to introduce the "Lexus" badge to their toyota high end models, just like we have here. weird eh?
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looks pro. hopefully they handle well, the current ones have too soft of a feel in the steering. i bet its gonna have some power too (around 300ish hp im guessing)
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Heres a spypic of the new corolla....

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Its based on the toyota crown in japan..

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^^whoa those headlights look like a maybach. the 07 camry reminds me of the avalon
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Originally Posted by CiViCPrAnInG2k1
Um Yes.... they are the same company. it's more of a marketing ploy in NORTH America to charge more for premium models. just look at Acura and HONDA, Infiniti to Nissan, etc. if you look at the japanese websites, they are all under Honda, Nissan, Toyota. however i heard that Japan is trying to introduce the "Lexus" badge to their toyota high end models, just like we have here. weird eh?
Actually, your right and wrong. Lexus is a spinoff of Toyota for the North American market. There are no lexus's in Japan however, most lexus models are renamed toyotas, soarer, altezza etc. Lexus is a company with the parent company of toyota motor company. So to say they are the same this is like saying you and your mother are the same thing. You are came from your mother but you are not the same thing. Parent/sibling companies. If they were the same thing, they would be sold under toyota's name.

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If toyota thought lexus and toyota were interchangeable, why would they introduce a lexus lineup in japan?

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Originally Posted by Kadenx
Actually, your right and wrong. Lexus is a spinoff of Toyota for the North American market. There are no lexus's in Japan however, most lexus models are renamed toyotas, soarer, altezza etc. Lexus is a company with the parent company of toyota motor company. So to say they are the same this is like saying you and your mother are the same thing. You are came from your mother but you are not the same thing. Parent/sibling companies. If they were the same thing, they would be sold under toyota's name.

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If toyota thought lexus and toyota were interchangeable, why would they introduce a lexus lineup in japan?
NO, im right. u basically said what i posted, so stop twisting around the subject. everything i said is right and direct to the point.

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Originally Posted by jiggerachi
Heres a spypic of the new corolla....


isn't this the new jetta???
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^Just a Stupid joke, notice the extreme resemblance to the corolla??
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Originally Posted by Kadenx
If toyota thought lexus and toyota were interchangeable, why would they introduce a lexus lineup in japan?
In Japan they sell the Toyota Soarer/Lexus SC right next to the Toyota Ist/Scion xA, which is also sold next to a Toyota Century (a limo with a V12).

The original Lexuses brought into the US were rebadged Toyota's from Japan. American consumers didn't want to pay the extra price tag for a Toyota, so Toyota followed Honda's footsteps and introduced a luxery brand. In Japan, they have had much better success with a single brand because they already offered top end models and low level models under one roof. Lately however, they have been debating on wether or not to bring in a luxery only image to seperate some cars. That is why they will bring Lexus brand to Japan.

I just hope that Camry has the sporty handling to go with that look.
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Looks a lot sportier.
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1. Toyota is opening up the "Lexus" name in Japan. Its old news, so just shut up about it. It happened.
2. Its a damn Camry. Its quite possibly the most boring car this side of a Chevy Impala. Who cares. The day it has a little bit of **** and vinegar in it, I'll rethink that, but I've never found any excitement or reason why anyone would buy one of those things. Reliable as hell? Yeah, but so is an Accord, and Accords don't feel like you're driving a minimalist sofa down the highway. Do people really shop at the "Toyotathon"?
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I like the design.
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looks nice. great family car.
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Um Yes.... they are the same company. it's more of a marketing ploy in NORTH America to charge more for premium models. just look at Acura and HONDA, Infiniti to Nissan, etc. if you look at the japanese websites, they are all under Honda, Nissan, Toyota. however i heard that Japan is trying to introduce the "Lexus" badge to their toyota high end models, just like we have here. weird eh?
No, this is inaccurate. Not only has Toyota started to use the Lexus name in Japan, but the two brands are now separated with different design/engineer teams.

Originally Lexus' were just Toyotas with a different badge (Toyota Celsior to the Lexus LS400, Toyota Soarer to the Lexus SC400, Atezza to the IS300). Now since the Lexus brand has become successful Toyota recently decided to make the divisions operate more separately. So now it's not just a marketing ploy.

Furthermore the Toyota Century is not a limo, it's Toyota's top end car. The Nissan President (aka previous gen Q45) was its main competitor. The current Q45 is the Nissan Cima in Japan.

Its based on the toyota crown in japan..
This is incorrect as well (so much misinformation in these boards). The Toyota Crown has a larger canopy area, whereas the waistline for the 07 Camry is higher. Furthermore Crowns tend to be smaller than Camrys as the Crown is primarily directed toward the domestic (Japanese) market. Toyota Camry's usually exist as the Toyota Mark II in Japan.

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