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Is is possible to have your car aligned too well. I recently put ground control coilovers on my car and I have tokico blues. I had it aligned and I have a camber kit on the rear and a camber bolt on the driver side tire( they told me the other side didnt need it.) All tires are straight up and down maybe too straight. When I drive the car has a mind of its own. if I let go of the wheel it can go straight but every single little curve in the road the whole car is fighting me on. I look like I am drunk all of the time. The car sways back and forth no matter how tight I hold the wheel. I know that the tire width can cause this but I have never experienced anything this bad.
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Too little camber, front or rear, will make the car twitchy and want to wander (No such thing as having the car aligned too well). also, toe settings will influence the cars handling alot too. so, what are the alignment #'s?
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Front Left: ............. Front Right:
Camber -.3 Degrees ............. Camber -.5 Degrees
Caster 2.1 Degrees ............ Caster 2.5 Degrees
Toe .01in ............ Toe .00 Inches
SAI 17.6 Degrees ................ SAI 17.3 Degrees
Included Angle 17.2 Degrees .............. Included Angle 16.8 Degrees
Front:
Cross Camber .1 Degree
Cross Caster -.4 Degree
Cross SAI .3 Degree
Total Toe .01 in
Rear Left: Rear Right:
Camber: -.5 Degree ............. Camber -.5 Degree
Toe .05 inches .............. Toe .11 inches
Rear:
Cross Camber 0.0 Degree
Total Toe .16 inches
Thrust angle -.07 Degree
Camber -.3 Degrees ............. Camber -.5 Degrees
Caster 2.1 Degrees ............ Caster 2.5 Degrees
Toe .01in ............ Toe .00 Inches
SAI 17.6 Degrees ................ SAI 17.3 Degrees
Included Angle 17.2 Degrees .............. Included Angle 16.8 Degrees
Front:
Cross Camber .1 Degree
Cross Caster -.4 Degree
Cross SAI .3 Degree
Total Toe .01 in
Rear Left: Rear Right:
Camber: -.5 Degree ............. Camber -.5 Degree
Toe .05 inches .............. Toe .11 inches
Rear:
Cross Camber 0.0 Degree
Total Toe .16 inches
Thrust angle -.07 Degree
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You need more front camber. Your toe is ok, but its floating because you've got next to nothing for camber in the front. Its fine for driving the highway, but if you want to play in the corners, forget about stock alignment specs. The rear toe out has a little to do with it, but they usually do that for straight line tracking. If you put about 1 degree of negative camber in the front and have your rear toe zeroed you'll probably be happier.
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What tires and air pressure are you running? I assume your not slammed being that one side in the front didnt require a cam bolt? And be aware that more negative camber can cause inside edge wear on the tires but will enhance handling. Assuming that all else is good, then id suggest having the alignment rechecked. Sometimes an alignment head can slip and give faulty readings. Then the tech will align the car out of specs but it will show in spec!
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They are yokahamas, 17 inch. The air pressure is whatever discount has them at. I have at least a finger gap all the way around. I am going to take it back and have them adjust it. thanks for the info. I was thinking that I needed more negative camber because the tires are just too straight up and down but wanted the second opinion.
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Originally Posted by 2k2civic
I had sears put about 28 PSI in each tire when these tires are rated for a max of 51 PSI.
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Recommended pressure has nothing to do with max. Max is what the mfg decides will pop the tire off the bead if its set there and run hard. Recommended has to do with the vehicle weight and the volume of air in the tire. General rule of thumb is 2 lbs per 1" up on the rim size from stock, or you can call tire rack, give them the car and the tire size and have them tell you what pressure you should be running (they do an air volume in the tire calculation).
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