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Ok people keep confusing me, so I plan on using e-manage with my turbo setup does this mean I still need to use the missing link or not? I want to run 9 psi when I race so could someone clarify this for me

 
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I have used both. You can use either or.

ML or the E-Manage voltage clamp

or

the E-manage & not the voltage clamp w/ the ML

 
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if ur setup require a emanage, then u don't need a ML.
if you are not running a emanage, then save the $$$ and just buy a ML.

 
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Now I've done my research but what is a voltage clamp and where can I get one and where does it go to. Sorry about this but I had no idea that we need to use a voltage clamp with the emanage when we don't use a missing link.

 
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lol..it's not a clamp like you think...it's a programing clamp within the Emanage to moderate voltage being sent to the ecu. Dezod....DR.Dezod I mean can explain better.....

 
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does the missing link let you safely run 8 psi ish with proper tuning etc? or is it more like a band aid.

 
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a ML is just a check valve. It keeps the stock map sensor from seeing boost. Our cars work off of vaccum, if the map sensor senses boost, then it will go apeshit and will kick into limp mode.

 
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w3Rd...

 
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I've heard problems with the synapse ML over 10psi. I used mine up to 9lbs when i sold it with no problems what so ever. I miss it too. I'm running TSI's "Black box" ML. The synapse had a much much better vac-boost transition. The black box makes it feel like i-vtec engaging on a k! Can't be good on the engine for daily driving (power spikes)

 
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If ya could DR.Dezod can you explain a little better

 
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To put it quite simply it limits the voltage the ECU sees over and above what you set it at. For example, if you clamp it @ 3V, the ECU nevers sees anymore voltage than 3V, which means the car never sees more than 60% throttle, hence you can program custom fuel curves from that point on. Remember you ALSO have to accomodate for normal driving because your not allowing the ECU to use it's already pre-programmed WOT or higher levels of throttle fuel maps.

 
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So in your opinion what way is better/easier?

 
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my tuner said just to get the ml just for 8 pounds

 
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Personal preference.

 
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yeah, they do the same thing, but emanage probably works for higher boost. not too sure, but Ive heard about the 10psi thing with the ml a few times before. I like TSIs, it is sort of like a vtec kicking in......on a lx, lol. But that could be what broke my tranny mount. The tranny's off center by like an inch with rubber all around it cracked in about 4 spots, rubber hanging out, its sad.

 
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I know of no limitations with the ML.

 
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who is running a missing link successfully? and for how long?

 
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I have the tsi black box and a safc2. I am getting a high voltage code in the car whenever i hit boost. what could be the problem? the "black box" is a ml right? was it not installed correctly? would love some help

 
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I have 02 sensor high voltage and all cyclinders missing i have emanage slightly tuned and synapse missing link

 
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i'm curious, if you're using the e-manage, does the pressure sensor substitute the missing link? where does it get the pressure reading from?

 
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bump

 
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I have the same question??
anybody??

 
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How about clamp it at what the ECU sees at WOT?? Then program the fuel curves as well... how much volt does the ECU sees at Wide Open Throttle from the MAP sensor when there is no boost (when it stills being an N/A engine)??

 
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as i recall its 2.95 volts

 
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So, the more volts the MAP sends to the ECU means it means less pressure, and the less volt means more pressure??

Because, as Dezod said: 3.0V is for 60% throttle, and 2.95V is at Wide Open?