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Cheapest way to get 200hp

What is the cheapest way to get 200hp? k20a swap? Can a stock d17 motor /w turbo get 200+ hp? To get 200hp on a d17 what engine mods are need, gasket? Thanks.
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turbo will be cheaper to get you to your goal of 200whp


but..............

being cheap on a turbo set-up will result in u buying a new block and pistons
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ok, asuming i get a nice turbo+intercooler+oil cooler, what mods to the engine would be best to take full advantage of the turbo READ: 7+ PSI. And this is a daily driver.
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synapse missing link, boost gauge, a/f gauge, egt gauge, oil pressure gauge, full custom exhaust, clutch, piggy back fuel computer (safc or emanage) and the most important thing is the fuel system.
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synapse missing link, boost gauge, a/f gauge, egt gauge, oil pressure gauge, full custom exhaust, clutch, piggy back fuel computer (safc or emanage) and the most important thing is the fuel system.
Why is fuel so important? I dont have to worie about head gasket breaking or the bottom end?
BTW thanks for all you help.
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Originally Posted by pagefault
Why is fuel so important? I dont have to worie about head gasket breaking or the bottom end?
BTW thanks for all you help.

b/c u are adding air, you need the extra fuel to burn properly and avoid detonation which can result in buring a hole in ur piston.

Avoid detonation at 7psi and you HG will be fine. Turn it up to 10 psi and u will have problems.
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turbo plus no fuel=destruction
turbo plus fuel= a smile on you're face
fuel is needed to offset the compression of the turbo. I suck at explaning things so ill let someone else jump on this one! There is ALOT of info on the site, so look around...
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wats the EGT guage?
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Exhaust Gas Temperature
any readon you would really need this? cant really run 4 gauges
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any readon you would really need this? cant really run 4 gauges

higher than normal exhaust temps usually mean that you are running lean............and u can run 20 gauges if you wanted to
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How much would that beTo get our engines to 200whp that is.
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Originally Posted by Wolfgang5884
How much would that beTo get our engines to 200whp that is.

It would take about $5,000

also with turbo on d17............u are also gonna have around 200ft/lbs of tq........which is where it's at
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Originally Posted by civic01vtec
It would take about $5,000

also with turbo on d17............u are also gonna have around 200ft/lbs of tq........which is where it's at
not that much. ill be doing it for around 3500 if it all goes to plan
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not that much. ill be doing it for around 3500 if it all goes to plan




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prolly a port and polish head, custom made intake manifold, intake header exhaust and a 75 shot of the juice
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If you are planning on 200+ hp turbo Id say expect close to or over 5k if you do it right. If you scrounge and bargain maybe as low as 3500 with a LOT of extra time making stuff and friggin around. With the clutch, flywheel, intake mani., polished head, ss valves, springs and retainers, blockguard, headgasket, complete fuel sys converted to return with 440 injectors, full 2.5 exhaust, DS mbc, all the emanage goodies, heat wrap, alcohol injection, intercooler sprayer and all the other possible good stuff you can get with a dyno tune figured in, im in deep at about $9k+ but should be extremely reliable and realy goddamn fast. Should be back together within 2 months. Next year hopefully I will be sleeving, rods and pistons.LOL yeah it all depends on how far you want to take it. Im not stopping at least till I see 12s outta the FP civic. Just think, I dont even have 20k miles on the clock Bwahahahaha Whats wrong with me????
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buy a new car
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$5,000 to have 200whp on D17....I dont think so...I wonder what I have now....how much horsepower is 10psi....I know its different on different cars but I'm sure 9-10psi is CLOSE to 200whp right? someone enlightened me
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10psi is like 220hp but like 200ft/lb of torque w00t
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Ill be running 12pounds high, 6 low for every day driving. But that will be max till the bottom end is done. I figure hopefully 230 whp. We will see. Buy A wet kit if you dont need constant HP its WAY cheaper. I just like having power there all the time.
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$5,000 to have 200whp on D17....I dont think so...I wonder what I have now....how much horsepower is 10psi....I know its different on different cars but I'm sure 9-10psi is CLOSE to 200whp right? someone enlightened me

why not?

guns was dyno'ed at 230whp with a tuned vafc, ehaust and clutch...........that is about $5,000.
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Originally Posted by civic01vtec
why not?

guns was dyno'ed at 230whp with a tuned vafc, ehaust and clutch...........that is about $5,000.

hmmm...I need to figure up how much I've spent so far....not $5000 though...maybe $4grand but thats pushing it
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