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Old Jul 12, 2004
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Making our stock intake cold air?

Just below the inlet to the intake is a square hole with some wires running thru it. Has anyone fabbed a piece to go into it and then onto the stock resonator box opening? Not the air filter box opening for clarification.
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It already drawing cold air from where the intake is next to the battery. You won't feel any difference by running longer pipe down to the bumper.
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Thats what I thought, but you never know...
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That design is stupid. It's the same as the stock setup, only you'll have an ugly tube and louder sound without resonator.

I think the question we should be asking is how to make the air colder that's going into the stock inlet. It may be possible to just replace the stock inlet from the resonator down to the bumper someplace. But then it's gonna get dirty and suck more dirt in. Oh well. I think Honda spent more time on design than anyone else could.
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"only you'll have an ugly tube and louder sound without resonator."

Sounds like most of the aftermarket intakes... ;-)
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Haha. I've found that my car pulls harder with the stock intake than with K&N or AEM intakes. It has to do with the airbox acting as a reservoir to make sure there is a constant flow even at low rpms.

You have to remember that the car needs a combo of both velocity and volume of air. Too big a tube will give more volume, but then the speed will decrease. Too small an opening, and you'll get less air moving at a faster rate. So the stock design is sortof a compromise to this.
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Haha. I've found that my car pulls harder with the stock intake than with K&N or AEM intakes. It has to do with the airbox acting as a reservoir to make sure there is a constant flow even at low rpms.

You have to remember that the car needs a combo of both velocity and volume of air. Too big a tube will give more volume, but then the speed will decrease. Too small an opening, and you'll get less air moving at a faster rate. So the stock design is sortof a compromise to this.

Isn't this the whole idea of the V2?

I'm not sure...but I think the V2's claim to fame is that it pushes MORE air...FASTER....

Just thinking about my EP3. A friend has the AEM CAI/Magnaflow exhaust...and I'm NOT impressed. I've beat him 3 times, and I'm ALL stock. So...this holding true...I intend to STAY stock, keep my torque, and have more pull at low RPM's for AutoXing................whatcha think Gbox?

I've also thought about the V2 because of the above "claim to fame"...more/faster.

(Remember, I have the K20A3...not the D17...)
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Stay stock. Or maybe look for a way to extend the intake inlet to make it get colder air. This may be possible on a civic, by replacing just the inlet while keeping the airbox and resonator. There's no room though. I'm finding that the best mods are those that do not involve a complete replacement. The ported head I have seems to be doing okay, and I may get the TB bored out as well for a bit more response.
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Hmm....yeah. After my AutoX event today....I'm not doing ANYTHING to the motor...until I can do it all, I/H/E, all at once. To salvage some torque while gaining the hp.

But we'll see....

Thanks for the input!
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i have exhaust on my car, should i not get intake then, is that what your saying?
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Originally Posted by RallyeRed2k2
i have exhaust on my car, should i not get intake then, is that what your saying?

Not necessarily...you've already started the process...just finish it.
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We really need to find a way to cool the entire intake system. Those plastic pieces get very HOT. So even if you're drawing in cold air, it will be 100+degrees by the time it reaches the TB. We need better engine bay cooling I guess. I felt the intake today and almost burned myself on it.
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I've been considering this also gearbox. I think I am going to wrap my fipk you sold me in refelective insulation. I was also thinking about mounting some small cooling fans in the engine bay around the intake area. Maybe like a 4 inch fan conected to some tubing routed down kind of like a cai. It would have like a ram air effect when driving and the fan would pull cold air in when at a stop. The fan could be hooked up to a thermostat. I'm not sure how it would all work but I'm starting with the insulation wrap.

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Wouldn't the power used to run the extra fans diminish any gains in horsepower?
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The wrap will help, and that heat shield around the filter also does a good job. It's the stock intake that's harder to do.
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It would depend on the size of the fan. a 4 inch fan can run off of 4 AA batteries so I don't think it would use too much juice especially for me cuz I don't have any I.C.E. I'm just brainstorming some ideas. I think the intake will stay fairly cool when driving if I just route some type of tubing to the grill and make it like ram air. The problem is keeping it cool in stop and go driving or when stopped at a red light.
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Talk about fans sapping power! The older cars with the clutch fans robbed a ton!!!
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Yeah, my dad used to have a 69 chevelle. We got rid of the fan clutch and bought a flex fan.
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Our fans use alot of power to run, and they don't even cool that well. The problem is the tranny and header both give off tons of heat that gets caught by the plastic intake parts. Sure the inlet on the side is nice and cold, but the other pieces are super hot.
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Here's and idea.....

JUST TAKE OFF THE HOOD!!!

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Yea... I actually see people do that from time to time. I think i'm just going to weld a huge piece of sheet metal around the whole engine except for the intake. Problem solved! Or since our TB is on verticle mount I could just cut a hole in the hood and run a pipe straight up through the hood and the filter could stick up in the air like a flag or something. I'm gonna invent an engine that runs off ice water.

I am filled with ideas problem is none of em work.
 
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