Not your ordinary Electric supercharger...?
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Not your ordinary Electric supercharger...?
http://www.boosthead.com/product.php?id=18
What do you guys think of this thing? Not that I plan on getting one, but I just wanted you guys to see it.
What do you guys think of this thing? Not that I plan on getting one, but I just wanted you guys to see it.
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I would have to see it on a car to believe it. But they do have dyno sheets, even though I can't read them to well. But until it is proven by other people putting it on their car I will think it is a waste of $2,000.
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Rep Power: 413 it looks like a real blower, but instead of attaching to your pully it is run by electric batteries. hmmm...
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Rep Power: 317 Here's the kicker, from their FAQ:
"Why is the ESC-400™ limited to only 15-second bursts?
The heat generated by 15KW limits the running time. So do your batteries. There is only a specific amount of stored energy available. How often do you run for over 15 seconds? If you do that on ANY car you are over 90+ MPH. Some of you may drive faster than 100 MPH on the street, but those speeds should be saved for the racetrack.
How long does it take to recharge the system?
You can recharge the batteries in a couple of minutes with a high output alternator."
The $2000 doesn't include the batteries or alternator either!
Check out this page, showing all the stuff you have to buy in addition to their electric turbo:
http://www.boosthead.com/installation_docs/doc17.htm
Nice idea, but I say get a Turbo instead.
"Why is the ESC-400™ limited to only 15-second bursts?
The heat generated by 15KW limits the running time. So do your batteries. There is only a specific amount of stored energy available. How often do you run for over 15 seconds? If you do that on ANY car you are over 90+ MPH. Some of you may drive faster than 100 MPH on the street, but those speeds should be saved for the racetrack.
How long does it take to recharge the system?
You can recharge the batteries in a couple of minutes with a high output alternator."
The $2000 doesn't include the batteries or alternator either!
Check out this page, showing all the stuff you have to buy in addition to their electric turbo:
http://www.boosthead.com/installation_docs/doc17.htm
Nice idea, but I say get a Turbo instead.
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Rep Power: 0 P.O.S. I'd prefer the reliability of a nitrous system or the always-on benefit of a turbo setup.
Running a tiny supercharger off of 3 starter motors is absolutely absurd. 4-5 minutes to charge? B.S.
Running a tiny supercharger off of 3 starter motors is absolutely absurd. 4-5 minutes to charge? B.S.
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Rep Power: 382 seems like it would work, its just replacing a Normal BLowers Belt drive with electric motors........ the theory is sound, but how much harder does the altinator have to work?
only thing I'd wonder about is all that extra weight in batteries....
only thing I'd wonder about is all that extra weight in batteries....
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Rep Power: 0 Originally posted by ELaudio
P.O.S. I'd prefer the reliability of a nitrous system or the always-on benefit of a turbo setup.
Running a tiny supercharger off of 3 starter motors is absolutely absurd. 4-5 minutes to charge? B.S.
P.O.S. I'd prefer the reliability of a nitrous system or the always-on benefit of a turbo setup.
Running a tiny supercharger off of 3 starter motors is absolutely absurd. 4-5 minutes to charge? B.S.
Since when is nitrous reliable?
Hmm, nah I wouldn't go for this type of "forced induction". I mean, if you save up another grand, you've got a turbo. So what's the use? But if you've got money to burn, then..
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Rep Power: 382 [Q] You should have invested in ported pistons and VTEC rods and a carbon fiber powerband. [/Q]
Did some one actually say that??? shall we go beat them with rubber hoses?
Did some one actually say that??? shall we go beat them with rubber hoses?
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Ok. . ok. . I'm kidding. . I love a turbo just as much as the next guy. .
The electric thing is a good idea, but they need to improve it. . Make it so that it can run all the time without causing a problem with recharging it and stuff like that. If they could improve the quality, meaning it's ability to always be on and always be ready to give you some HPs, then it would be sweet. Until then regular Turbo, or supercharger.
Ok. . ok. . I'm kidding. . I love a turbo just as much as the next guy. .
The electric thing is a good idea, but they need to improve it. . Make it so that it can run all the time without causing a problem with recharging it and stuff like that. If they could improve the quality, meaning it's ability to always be on and always be ready to give you some HPs, then it would be sweet. Until then regular Turbo, or supercharger.
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Rep Power: 317 Building on what Pheaton said, when cars finally upgrade to the higher voltage electrical systems, we'll see a lot of improvements in electronics and anything that uses a lot of current. Car stereos for example will adapt and benefit from higher voltage. Amplifiers will also benefit from the new changes.
It will probably change the way that we install amplifiers and eliminate any possible need for caps. I'm guessing this will bring about a revolution in car stereo and possibly shrink the size of amps. I may be overreacting, but there's going to be a lot of changes very soon.
There was an article in Popular Science or Popular Mechanics this past year about the many changes that will take place with the voltage upgrade. I'll see if I can find more info.
Check out these Q&As from the FAQ about this subject:
"How will the ESC-400™ work with new production vehicles?
New cars can definitely benefit from the ESC, as the latest electrical systems usually have a higher capacity to recharge the batteries. Most new cars have an alternator rated at 100+ amps, so a replacement high output alternator may not be needed. Also, most fuel systems work well at wide-open throttle (WOT), and the ESC only operates at WOT
Will the new 42 volt systems on production cars work with the ESC-400™?
The 42V standard for automobiles starting in 2006 will make electric supercharging the wave of the future. Currect draw is reduced as voltage increases, so the higher the voltage the more power that should be available."
Come to think of it, this deserves a thread of it's own...so I started one HERE.
It will probably change the way that we install amplifiers and eliminate any possible need for caps. I'm guessing this will bring about a revolution in car stereo and possibly shrink the size of amps. I may be overreacting, but there's going to be a lot of changes very soon.
There was an article in Popular Science or Popular Mechanics this past year about the many changes that will take place with the voltage upgrade. I'll see if I can find more info.
Check out these Q&As from the FAQ about this subject:
"How will the ESC-400™ work with new production vehicles?
New cars can definitely benefit from the ESC, as the latest electrical systems usually have a higher capacity to recharge the batteries. Most new cars have an alternator rated at 100+ amps, so a replacement high output alternator may not be needed. Also, most fuel systems work well at wide-open throttle (WOT), and the ESC only operates at WOT
Will the new 42 volt systems on production cars work with the ESC-400™?
The 42V standard for automobiles starting in 2006 will make electric supercharging the wave of the future. Currect draw is reduced as voltage increases, so the higher the voltage the more power that should be available."
Come to think of it, this deserves a thread of it's own...so I started one HERE.
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Rep Power: 0 Originally posted by Zzyzx
[Q] You should have invested in ported pistons and VTEC rods and a carbon fiber powerband. [/Q]
Did some one actually say that??? shall we go beat them with rubber hoses?
[Q] You should have invested in ported pistons and VTEC rods and a carbon fiber powerband. [/Q]
Did some one actually say that??? shall we go beat them with rubber hoses?
Yeah, actually, they did. But I got it from another forum, not this one..
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