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F***.. Just got a ticket for going 71 in a 50. This may sound typical, but I was not going 71. I know I was speeding, but I was going around 65.

My question is, what are my options?

Something else too, I've never gotten a ticket before, so i'm not sure how this works... theres no date on the ticket that says when I have to pay it by.. is that right?

Thanks for the replies




oh, for anyone curious, I got it on Middlefield turning onto Highglen... for the Markham people..... SH*T!!!

 
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i don't mind paying the fine, but I just don't want any points deducted.. basically, I'll pay the fine, but I don't want my insurance to go up

 
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dont pay man...i was in the same situation....fight it......

 
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20 over is, what, 2 points? If you feel lucky, you can deny the charge and go to court to pray the cop won't show. If you really want to avoid problems, pay a ticket fighter and get it cleared. Success rate usually much higher with a ticket fighter, but be prepared, they charge from $200-$400, and depending on how popular some smaller ones might even fight free if they fail... But then again, you dun wanna risk right?

 
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20 over is 3 points. i got a ticket for 70 in a 50 and it was $100 and 3 points. you got like 2 weeks to reply but no matter what i would fight it. even though the cop does show up in court they usually give you some kind of deal if you know what to say, especially if it was only your first ticket.

me personally had two tickets on the same day a while back one for speeding 89 in a 50 and another for failing to provide insurance card. he reduced it on the spot to 20 over but i still decided to fight it even though i knew i wasnt going to win. in court the cop did show up but after talking to him we went up to the procecutor and she said since it was already reduced on the spot she couldnt do anything about that anymore but she was willing to drop the insurance card thing if i paid the speeding ticket. so i just decided to do that.

in the end instead of having to pay $370 for speeding and insurance i just had to pay 100 which isnt that bad, but if you were just going 70 in a 50 im pretty sure you can work something out. i had some friends in similar situations as you and when they fought it in court the prosecutor sometimes drops it to 15 over so theres no points but you have to pay like 40 dollars or something.

hrmmm hope this helps somewhat, but no matter what put that sucka in the mail right away saying your going to fight it, my lazy father got a ticket for speeding and never replied and got his liscence revoked for a month or something so i had to drive his but around that time.

 
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Go to the Justice of the Peace and tell him your story. He will most likely take off the points and reduce the fine. Especially if you have a clean record. Good Luck, and sorry to hear about the ticket. Im surprised he nailed you in the 20km over range. Usually they dont pull you over unless you're going well over that.

 
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where is the justice of the peace? O_o

.. at old city hall? haha.. damn, i dont know **** around the city of toronto

 
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Can someone clear this up?

I got a ticket, but I got a deal on the ticket. I was supposed to get two, but I only got one for having expired license papers.

Would the cop pull that out during the court appearance, and say "Look your Honour, I already gave this punk a deal......." Would I be screwed? Do they have any proof that they give deals out?

 
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yes, the officer writes down everything he does...
even deals that he/she gives out.
so if you go to court, its his words against yours.

edit: from personal experience..... they write every ****ing detail down.

 
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hmm i dont know about if he threw the ticket out on the spot, but if they reduce the ticket like in my case, they write ND on it which means no deal or something like that.

if you decide to fight it all the way like take it to the judge the chances of winning are pretty slim if your fighting it by yourself without any concrete evidence. like i said though thats if you take it to the judge, usually the prosecutor talks to you before hand and you'll know whether or not you can make a deal.

this is all from my experience though so obviously im not some experienced lawyer but hopefully something within my post you can find something of use.

 
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The JP only has the power to lower the fine, he cannot do anything about the points. Plus if you fight it and the cop doesn't show up... that doesn't matter anymore. He is not required to by law and it is still his word against yours.

The JP dropped my $341.00 fine for doing 126 in an 80 to $85.00

Thank you JP and F#^@ the police, read them their rights... DRAMA.

 
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Thanks for all the advice so far...

what is the Justice of Peace? is that the same as the judge, or the prosecutor?

And would you guys/girls recommend I call up the courthouse or wahtever it is and try to settle it on the phone, or what do I need to do?

 
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Hey DONTPULLMEOVER, just wondering, did they still take off points off your ticket? or just drop the points and reduce the fine?

 
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Go to justice of the peace, get a resolution meeting. Not sure if it's the same as anyother city. I had a 80 in a 50, peaded guilty to 60 got a fifty some odd dollar fine. But no points. Sorry if this is a repeat I didn't read all the threds

 
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Just reading up on this....

What is Justice of the Peace?!

I have to go to court this Monday coming up! I was booked 84 in a 60... but the officer told me to take it to court... and to select option 3 on the back of the ticket. He said if he shows, he'll break a deal... if not, then he said don't worry about it. I asked, can't you just let me off this time then? He's like... can't buddy... sorry! I guess he was a lot nicer than the other officer who pulled me over for "supposedly speeding" a while ago... but that's another story. He didn't show... cuz he knew he was wrong!

I don't know why the heck they gave me night court! I have to go to... Queen St. or something? Can't remember... I gotta find the letter they sent me a long time ago! Anyone been there? Any advice for me...???

 
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i got a ticker couple of week ago during around 2:00am, driving 89 in a 60 zone on Finch and bayview, going down to the hill. I also choose option 3 on the back of the ticket, and still waiting for the court date to be set. Anyway, ALWAY CHOSE OPTION 3, because there's nothing to lose to go the court, if the officer didn't show up for any reason, then the ticket will also be void immediately, so why not giving yourself a possibility of winning it ....

L23Tan: from my previous experienace, NEVER TRUST ANY OFFICES, they just trying to give you ticket for any possible reasons, if that officer was cool, he should have let you go, think about that.

 
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Advice: Obey the speed limit or at least stay within about 10% OR have lots of money to pay to play.

 
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Ok, first thing to take note of is that you must make a decision to pay or go to court within 15 days. Get on that or you'll have your licence suspended for unpaid fine.

I would recomend that you set a court date. You will not offend the officer, he's done this a thousand times.( and even if you do, so what!).

On the court date, if the officer is not there, you tell the prosecutor that you are ready to proceed with your trial. Do not agree to an ajournment. The onus is on the prosecutor to to prove the case, and without the officer there to give the evidence, the matter will be marked withdrawn. In other words, the ticket is thrown out.
If the officer does show up, im sure you can strike a deal. Shoot for 15 km over, as the fine is $52.50 and carries no points with it.
Of course the option of hiring a lawyer is upi to you.

Another thing you can do is put in a request for disclosure. Upon doing so, the oficer will be directed to provide a copy of his notes. There are several advantages in doing this. 1. if by the time the court date comes and you have not received disclosure as requested, they will likely throw the ticket out. 2. by reading the officers notes, you can anticipate what his evidence will be and plan your defence accordingly.

By setting a court date and requesting disclosure, you have nothing to lose, and everything to gain. Good luck brother.

And to DONTPULLMEOVER, "f*#k the police"???? Nice talk buddy. You dont see me going out of my way to offend your family, so dont pull that crap with mine.

 
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Perhaps, Narc, he meant good wishes in you gettin sum in your civic.....hmmm....nah....prolly not. Worth a shot right? So when you wanna clear those headlights?

Back on topic - thanks for the good advice Narc. Here's hopin I'll never be put in a situation where I have to use it.

 
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hey narc thx for the info about disclosures i never knew about that. also what is first attendance? and does that have anything to do with tickets like this lets say.

 
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The JP dropped the fine only, he is not allowed to drop points. I still lost 4 points.

 
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A first attendance meeting is when you attend the Provincial Courthouse and meet with the crown prosecutor. This is not a courtroom scenario. In that meeting, a discussion is had and hopefully a resolution can be met. Speeding tickets are commonly resolved in this fashion. Best of luck.

 
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Hey guy, when did all you guys grow up? I see that you are not all old like me...29.Lol. the comment wasn't meant to offend your "family". I know exactly who you are, I am the one who took the photo of you at Timmie's Square One during the Niagra Meet... the one with two angles. My old nickname was ShiftS10 and yes MY BAD... I should have added the name ICE T to that comment because us old guys know it as a lyric from his song. OR maybe just shouldn't have wrote it at all? I won't next time, I know about 20 O.P.P. up here personally and they are all cool but I wasn't going to run to them as I don'y kiss *** when something was my fault to begin with "ticket". We sell and service a bunch of sleds, atv's and boats for the O.P.P.

Oh well maybe when I get back from Vegas we will have the chance to meet sometime. Perhaps when we have our lights cleared.

COPS ARE COOL! Your friend and everyone elses, DONTPULLMEOVER, formerly ShiftS10 or as the Niagra meet guys know me... The Cracker Guy.

 
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Hey Narc, thanks for the info... everyone else too..

So if I requested to take this to court, and when I go, the first thing that will happen is the first attendance meeting? does this happen all the time or just sometimes? Because i'm pretty sure I can work something out by talking to the prosecutor


*edit* do they automatically try to get a resolution before taking it to the courtroom?

 
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DONTPULLMEOVER- I may have over reacted. I APPOLOGIZE. Lets let it be water under the bridge. Im a little sensitive lately. Our division donated out of our pockets $18 000 for an officer in Brantford who was severly injured on duty while in pursuit of a fleeing culprit. He's not expected to ever walk again. One day that might be me.

LEAFS- The first attendance meeting does not happen automaticaly. If you read the back of the ticket, you'll see that you have 3 options. 1 pay your fine. 2. guilty with explanation (thats the meeting) 3. Trial.

 
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I guess we CAN all get along. Group hug everyone!

 
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Why people run from the police I will never know, sorry to hear that and I hope they got the guy fleeing. Lucky we have Narc here to clarify this stuff... I had like 10 people telling me different stories to tell the JP. Unfortunately my case was different. I was speeding a mile away from home to avoid an accident "lack of a bathroomitis" Lol. I was on Clavulin which is a form a penicylin and it was upsetting my stomach. I told the JP the truth and he understood the side effects of the drug. Plus I have had a clean record for many many many years, I plead guilty with a reason and he was extremely fair with me. That's my fault and I owned up to it, sure felt bad about setting a bad example for my nephew but can't take it back now. Atleast he wasn't with me at the time. I won't budge the car an inch if I don't see that my nephews or nieces or anyone for that fact doesn't wear a seat belt or something. Well this was my last comment... Off to Vegas!

DON'T RUN FROM THE COPS! Hey Narc, just outta curiosity... I know that when you guys chase soemone down the addrenalin gets pumping and you are well trained to deal with it so you don't react poorly. My question is how often do you guys experience these addrenalin rushes? Is it alot of the time? That would be hard to deal with I would think, kinda like always living on the edge and not always wanting to be there?

 
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Best description of the job I have heard is "long periods of boredom interupted by extreme excitement".

Two nights ago, pulled a fully loaded bored out starter pistol out of a kids pocket. Scared the **** outta me cuz I told him 3 times to not put his hands in his pocket. Glad I made it home.

Last week got into big brawl with a guy whacked up on coke.
Ive been bitten by 3 dogs.
Slapped by a senior citizen.
Held a man as he died in my arms.
Cpr to an infant whom didnt make it.
List goes on. Best job in the friggin world!

 
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I got two tickets last week. Got pulled over for going 75 in a 50 (damn street turns to 50 for about a km then back to 60). The second ticket was because the insurance card I was carrying was my old one (I think I threw out my new card thinking it was my old one).

The officer told me I should just go to court for both tickets and find him before the trial and show him my valid insurance card. Then we'd go talk to the prosecuter to drop the insurance ticket and see if we can do something about the speeding ticket (he hinted at a lower fine, or no points) just because I "made an effort to show up". He was pretty cool about the whole thing.

How long a wait is it for a court date nowadays?

 
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I just called the office and made an appointment for the first attendance meeting. Even if I can't come to terms there, I still have the option for trial... so I decided eh, why not. Oh, and they said they'd be mailing me the appointment in 4-6 weeks