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with retainers and springs when the cam comes out later this month...maybe make it a head package and get some valves too.....just a thought.

 
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im in on the buy if it happens. what are they retailing for ?

 
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I would be up for that

 
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Any idea on price?

 
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prices from crower
$375 per cam + $309 for spring/retainer kit.

 
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like i said when it goes down im in

 
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What kind of power gains are expected for N/A? And when do you think they'll be available?

 
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Its almost out, we will be the first ones to be selling these!

 
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i hope you can get us a good price, cause that's way too much just for a cam kit.

 
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I agree about the price...I would be in if it was cheaper!!

 
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...and then you gotta factor in install, cause that prolly is gonna require timing belt labor, at least another $250. That's almost pushing $1k for a cam. And does anyone know from the specs how aggressive this is, or if it will hurt idle quality?

 
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hmmm finally a cam thats not a regrind!!!

 
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yea props to crower for even making one. Would be great for the turbo guys.

 
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Below is from the other post about this in other parts....the stage two isn't so agressive that it is going to mess with the idle that bad, but it should produce some pretty decent numbers for NA, with tuning of course, but other than high comp pistons this may be one of the best NA upgrades.

The cams are new, no part numbers yet.
>
> You'll have to order direct as no dealers have the
> cams at this time.
>
> Turbo spec will feature a 188 duration, .238" lobe
> lift, .405" gross lift.
>
> >> Stock D17A2 cam specs:
> >>
> >> Int Mid (VTEC) - Dur @ .050" is 184, lobe lift .199"
> >> Exh Lobe - Dur @ .050" is 170, lobe lift .163"
> >>
> >> Stage 2 N/A Crower spec:
> >>
> >> Int Mid - Dur @ 050 193, lobe lift .237
> >> Exh Lobe - Dur @ 050 180, lobe lift .190
> >>
> >> Looking at about $375 per cam + required
> >> spring/retainer kit (#84166) runs $302.
> >>
> >> Thanks for your interest in Crower,
> >>
> >> Crower Cams & Equipment Co, Inc
> >> 6180 Business Center Court
> >> San Diego, CA 92154-5604 USA
> >> Tel: 619-661-6477
> >> Fax: 619-661-6466
> >> http://www.crower.com

 
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if they drop the price a lil... im in

 
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I have an itchy credit card. when is this gonna happen? any idea?

 
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Holy crap, is anyone disappointed with those numbers? Stage 2 N/A - The duration is less than my stock B18A cams and the gross lift is just slightly higher

The turbo guys should see some good benefit with the extra lift, at least.

Maybe we'll see some decent benefits with some porting, the D16 manifold swap, and 11:1 pistons... Either way, Truehonda, sign me up for the kit as soon as you get those babies in stock. Make sure to post an announcement here too