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Old Mar 28, 2007
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Re: D17 evolution occuring....witness it 1st hand!

Dezod,

will I be able to buy it as a single peice (not a whole kit), and can I buy just the exhaust adapter (from the turbo to the factory crap) on its own too? (thinking of making my own kit with some very nice peices from you guys, maybe a t25 and a small end inlet to end outlet intercooler, my own custom piping, the works)

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Re: D17 evolution occuring....witness it 1st hand!

Originally Posted by 02fpcivic
Just need to connect 2 d17s together to spool it, haha.

PS Looks like you guys use sch. 80 pipe fittings? If so those things are built for life.


The T's are always stupid thick compared to straight pipe or elbows for some reason. It really sucks cutting a wastegate hole into a T.

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Re: D17 evolution occuring....witness it 1st hand!

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Dezod,

will I be able to buy it as a single peice (not a whole kit), and can I buy just the exhaust adapter (from the turbo to the factory crap) on its own too? (thinking of making my own kit with some very nice peices from you guys, maybe a t25 and a small end inlet to end outlet intercooler, my own custom piping, the works)

thanks

PS - Looks good!
PM me. Maybe we can work something out.
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Holy ****.

Set one aside for me please Paul! I think I don't really care how much it will cost. That thing looks like sex if you could make a mold and cast it.

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Re: D17 evolution occuring....witness it 1st hand!

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Holy ****.

Set one aside for me please Paul! I think I don't really care how much it will cost. That thing looks like sex if you could make a mold and cast it.
This is the quasi-cast version.
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that looks bad ***. whats gonna be the cost of one of those?
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OMMFG... That's nuggin futs dude.

I wonder how much I can sell my kidney for on the blackmarket to get one of these....
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No estimated price, but I can ball park no more than our current price of $525
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Re: D17 evolution occuring....witness it 1st hand!

I can rationalize that when I build my bottom end - the engine that is.
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Re: D17 evolution occuring....witness it 1st hand!

Different look. It looks good, wonder how it will flow....
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Re: D17 evolution occuring....witness it 1st hand!

Originally Posted by andyman97
Different look. It looks good, wonder how it will flow....
Should pressurize VERY well due to the design of the runners and quasi collector.
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Re: D17 evolution occuring....witness it 1st hand!

Nice! Now you gotta complete everything so we can stop dreaming and start buying! =) Keep up the good work!
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Re: D17 evolution occuring....witness it 1st hand!

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Nice! Now you gotta complete everything so we can stop dreaming and start buying! =) Keep up the good work!
Tell me about it. Waaay too many projects on the plate. We are spread too thin.
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Re: D17 evolution occuring....witness it 1st hand!

that thing looks bad azs. will it be available to come with one of your kits once it comes out?
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Re: D17 evolution occuring....witness it 1st hand!

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that thing looks bad azs. will it be available to come with one of your kits once it comes out?
I doubt he'd be going through the trouble of having the design done if it weren't available with his kit....
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Re: D17 evolution occuring....witness it 1st hand!

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that thing looks bad azs. will it be available to come with one of your kits once it comes out?
It will be the standard for the S1 more than likely. The ALPHA kit will have the tubular.
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Re: D17 evolution occuring....witness it 1st hand!

any specific reason? is the tubular better for higher power or what?
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Re: D17 evolution occuring....witness it 1st hand!

Originally Posted by bigmax1665
any specific reason? is the tubular better for higher power or what?
Flow. It will prevail much better on higher boost and higher revving power.
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Re: D17 evolution occuring....witness it 1st hand!

hmm...
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Re: D17 evolution occuring....witness it 1st hand!

hey paul wanna become an 8th gen si specialist too? i miss having all the parts widely available on my 7thgen
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Re: D17 evolution occuring....witness it 1st hand!

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hey paul wanna become an 8th gen si specialist too? i miss having all the parts widely available on my 7thgen
Considering it.

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hmm...

It means it will make more power on higher boost and higher revs. That is all I meant in laymans terms.
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Re: D17 evolution occuring....witness it 1st hand!

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hey paul wanna become an 8th gen si specialist too? i miss having all the parts widely available on my 7thgen
Now who would have that you would ever have seen THAT in a civic forum?

That just goes to show all the folks that poo-poo'd the D17 when it came out and never would have believed anyone could make over 250, let alone 400 at the wheels on our engines. "Waa. No support. Waa. No one has parts. Waa. Its got VTEC-E." Stick that in your B-series and smoke it!
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Re: D17 evolution occuring....witness it 1st hand!

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Now who would have that you would ever have seen THAT in a civic forum?

That just goes to show all the folks that poo-poo'd the D17 when it came out and never would have believed anyone could make over 250, let alone 400 at the wheels on our engines. "Waa. No support. Waa. No one has parts. Waa. Its got VTEC-E." Stick that in your B-series and smoke it!


uhh well... it still costs a hell of a lot of money to make this car have over 300 wheel horsepower,

opposed to me being able to boost my k20 that comes stock in my car and making 300 wheel easily.... for thousands less.
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Re: D17 evolution occuring....witness it 1st hand!

300whp on several cars is expensive, not just the D17. Look at the platform and component comparison. K20 derives stout internals from the factory with a base power of 160-180whp, while the D17 is flimsy from the factory and makes 90-100whp.
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What program did you use to model that? It doesn't look like Inventor, I'm thinking Solidworks?
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What program did you use to model that? It doesn't look like Inventor, I'm thinking Solidworks?
I am not a CAD'r. Dave is. I will ask him as he did this one.
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Alright, sweet. I'm learning to use these programs, and some stimulating conversation would be a welcome change.
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uhh well... it still costs a hell of a lot of money to make this car have over 300 wheel horsepower,

opposed to me being able to boost my k20 that comes stock in my car and making 300 wheel easily.... for thousands less.
You couldn't be more wrong. I guarantee I can get an em2 with a d17 (already there) to 300 whp than swapping a k series and making 300 whp. The only additional things a d17 need are pistons, rods, cam and valvetrain. Tell me that equates to a 7k motor swap....
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Re: D17 evolution occuring....witness it 1st hand!

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You couldn't be more wrong. I guarantee I can get an em2 with a d17 (already there) to 300 whp than swapping a k series and making 300 whp. The only additional things a d17 need are pistons, rods, cam and valvetrain. Tell me that equates to a 7k motor swap....

you couldn't have misunderstood me any more

I was referring to my civic si that already HAS a k20 in it.

which was in reply to this guy

Now who would have that you would ever have seen THAT in a civic forum?

That just goes to show all the folks that poo-poo'd the D17 when it came out and never would have believed anyone could make over 250, let alone 400 at the wheels on our engines. "Waa. No support. Waa. No one has parts. Waa. Its got VTEC-E." Stick that in your B-series and smoke it!

I was responding back to his sarcastic response. The fact of the matter is you can't compare the amount of money it takes to actually make a d17 have 250 horsepower, (god forbid 400) opposed to other cars to have 250, and I was giving an example... my car, for thousands less.

I didn't mean for this to get off topic,

now I need to go back to convincing sir paul on working on the SI's

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