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Old Nov 23, 2006
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Question Max HP from N/a D17?

So I'm working on building a block/head for turbo setup. Ive got a DX, but recently purchased an EX head so that i can get cams/valve-train etc.

My question is, what is the most horsepower I could get from my engine with the head-swap ( assuming i got a cam, cam gear, and the Apexi vafc, or w/e its called)? Turbo looks like it would be rather fun to build/drive, but I have other things I need to spend money on. So I might just windup n/a depending on how much HP i could possibly get out of it.

If possible....I'd really like to get around 160hp
full list of mods would be:
intake,
headers,
exhaust (no-cat...straight pipes?),
dx->EX head swap,
Crower Cam(not sure which one yet)
AEM cam-gear possibly,
and possibly crower valve train, pending on the cam i get.

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like 157 or something... Just swap.
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you mean K20swap? cant afford that ****
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if you get everything available off the shelf for the d17 I would say 170bhp is the limit and that's being very generous. stg 3 cam, with aem ems, cai, straight pipes, high flow race header, d16 intake manifold, crower crank, lightweight flywheel, basically everything. It will cost a lot, in fact so much that a swap will look much better once you start pricing parts.
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^agreed..
swap=more power for less money but more downtime
boost/swap>n/a build
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Originally Posted by Sujak
k20a3 man, you can find a engine for like $1000 or less! and make 160whp+ i/h/e
What does that include though? just the block? or is that tranny, axles, wiring harness adn everything?


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you have a auto civic. your starting at 90whp. good luck. youd have to be boosted to get those numbers and even then, your still looking at only 160whp at 5-6psi.
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oh **** he has an auto, nevermind your ****ed for power, turbo and n2o is the only way for an auto d17 and with that you'll have to be careful. lower my n/a numbers to like 130-135bhp. auto tranny ftmfl
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I used to have a Auto D17 I Swapped.
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I think I'm doing pretty decent as-is right now.
Last time I went to the track (right after I put my headers on - but throwing a CEL for primary 02) I was running better times than an 04 base-automatic RSX (by about .5-1.5 seconds)
and now that I've got my 02 fixed again, I want to go back to the track when I have time, to see what I'm running now.

edit: the 17.7254 @ w/e was when I was stock. The time I was racing the RSX I was hitting high 16's

Edit#2: With the crower stage2 N/A cam, would that make the car idle pretty rough?

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I ran a 14.9 with a K20a3 swap i/e/h kpro my local track upkeep is shiat
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gl with a NA d17.....do a swap if you can...
you can pick up a k20a3 or k24 for pretty cheap.
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not worth it on a auto d17. i had a auto before... they i turned to the dark side...
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Originally Posted by HondaLuver
not worth it on a auto d17. i had a auto before... they i turned to the dark side...
haha, ill never go back to auto again
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Originally Posted by Curiouz_G
you have a auto civic. your starting at 90whp. good luck. youd have to be boosted to get those numbers and even then, your still looking at only 160whp at 5-6psi.
Yeah, that's a pretty accurate number. At 6 psi I made 195 whp stock d17a2. 02fpcivic made over 200whp at 5.5 psi. Few others have broken 200 whp on only 6 psi so yeah, you'll only get about 160 whp on 6 psi
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