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I like breaking things. Its fun.

I could probably build another whole car with the amount of spare parts i have. Like right now, my input shaft bearing is broken, and my half shaft is clacking. When im done with my new motor, i am going to replace the half shaft with one of my extra sets, and replace my tranny with the one i "upgraded".

If you can do all the work yourself, it really isnt all that expensive. I rebuilt my tranny with different bearings myself. Cost me $23.

 
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as everyone else says welcome to the world of headaches that is turbo

 
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its more like "welcome to the nightmare of turbocharging factory naturally aspirated engines"

 
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It takes work. Its not like finding a way to travel through a wormhole. Its just a challenge, if it was easy, everyone would do it, yet more than a few people have pulled it off with success. Knowing a limit, and not exceeding it goes a long way in keeping things together.
There's a lot of turbo cars that don't do too good of a job staying in one piece either.

 
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So you're doing it just for the challenge and not the boost? I find that hard to believe...but anyway to each their own. cost vs problems vs final outcome potential all weighed in to be a waste of time and money for me. I've put more than 12k miles on my dubb since it was bandnew, have had no problems with it at all yet and I can make upwards to 400whp with less money spent on it than what you've spent so far, without touching internals, and you're not even done putting your kit together yet....

 
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you know there is a challenge in making a slow car faster. Boost just so happens to be a mechanism to get it there.
I'm glad you found it to be wasted time, but quite frankly its not really going to deter me from do it. If you're happy with your Volkswagen then just go drive it and leave those of us who are "wasting our time" to waste it.
If I had a huge number in mind, I'd consider other options, but I don't. It doesn't take much to make a track car more fun, because you spend less time going straight than in any other direction. An extra 50 hp is plenty and rolling into the gas and getting some sort of push is all I'm looking for. Weighing $3500 + a little extra wear and tear maintanence vs a 25000 new car + redoing all the other work done to the civic + the same track expenses, do the math.

 
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Hell, hehe, if its such a waste of money why do you drive a VW when you could buy a used lt1 camaro for 10k and slap a 125 shot on it and rape that Dubb. I think you are kinda missing the point here. Its about making more with less, something out of nothing, doing what you wanna do. Thats the hot rod way man, dont hate, we are all out to have fun.

 
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the hot rod way?

 
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I think I might sell my civic and buy a vw.

 
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We are doing the same thing as the first guys to beef up a flathead, or chop a 34, its just in a different time, with different cars. They started it, we are picking up the ball and running with it. Thats kinda how I look at it. New school hot rodding.

 
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I am leaving you alone. Like I said before..."to each their own" but you're the one who started a thread complaining about your lack of progress with building your kit. Just look at the title of this thread "I'm getting sick of suprises" Well if you're so tired of the suprises then stop while you're ahead and go buy a car thats already turbocharged. Thats what I did and thats my advice to you and if you dont want people's honest opinions and advice that comes with them then you shouldnt be posting threads like this.

 
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I dont like domestics because they eat too much gas, my only point was that if you're trying to boost something, its more efficient and more cost effective to boost something thats already boosted from the factory. I'm not hating trust me!

 
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Where the **** did I say anything about a "lack of progress"? Now you're reading things that aren't there.
The rant, if you actually read a single word of it, was majorily in regards to the nickel and diming thats been coming with every damn thing that's needed, and really has not a damn thing to do with lack of progress or anything of the sort. I think by reading the list of haves and have nots any intelligent, rational person could deduce the fact that progress IS being made, hence the remaining items are merely accessories. The car isn't gonna boost itself overnight. To go out and buy a new car is pretty worthless advice, if its applicable advice at all. It really has nothing to do with this in any way shape or form. No one's on here trying to work on a car and planning on buying a new one. If I was car shopping, I'd have bought it a long time ago and it makes ZERO sense to drop everything and go buy a new one. The loss of money on the trade + the work in this one + the work to get a stock car back to the point this one is at with regards to everything but the engine would take thousands upon thousands of dollars, probably enough to re-buy this one again.
if you found the way was to buy a new car... good for you. I'm in a wee bit too deep already to drop everything and flake out on it. Too much time, effort, blood and brain power has been put into this one to give up and start over. When this one blows up beyond repair, considerations will be made towards a next step, but I'm in it with this one until the wheels fall off.

 
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Thats why people put their cars back to stock and sell everything they've bought for their civics to minimize the loss which is what I was implying. Thats why theres things like classifieds and ebay dude. As soon as you're done getting that kit together and putting it in, you're prolly gonna break the tranny, throw a rod or blow the head gasket which is only gonna cost you even more, resulting in a further delay of your goal. This is why so many boosted members have gave up on their 7th gen and moved onto something else. This whole thing about "oh its gonna cost too much to drop this project and start another" is a poor excuse because smart people who arent rich realize a poor investment then throw in the towel. Dont get mad at me for giving my input...like I said, if you dont want the input then dont post up threads. Plain and simple.

 
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If you want to play you gotta pay

 
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I personally will stick to my original goal. Its only a poor investment if you arent all for it 100%. My car will reliably hit the 12's this spring after I beef up the guts, and thats all I want out of it. I still get 32 mpg cruizing down the highway at 70 mph with the turbo barely spooling. I openly admit that it costed a bunch of money, but I havent seen a 7th gen in my area that comes even close to mine. That makes it worth it to me. Not to mention people are used to the fact that they see a 7thgen and they already know in there mind that they can rape it, untill they pick on me that is. Every modded car is a waste of money if you think about it really. I dont worry about the money because it takes the fun out of it. The only time I have broken anything so far was due to my own lack of knowledge. Since the car has been properly tuned and gone through I have beat the crap out of it and had zero breakage. To me its all about dedication. Once I reach my goal I'll build another project, but I wont stop until this one is done to my liking. I dont think that makes me stupid, just stubborn. IDK I say do what suits you and to hell with everyone else. I bet people thought guys like Papadakis were stupid for modding there lil hatchbacks and stuff too.

 
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***NEWS FLASH**** This can happen to ANY car. So whats your point?
People in stock evos blow transmissions left and right, WRXs are not much better, any piston engine can throw a rod (go find the videos with the turbo DSMs throwing rods on the dyno), and can do it WITHOUT the help of forced induction (I'll cite any NASCAR race, be it as bad of an example as it is to compare race motors, but more than enough people pop NA motors on a regular basis with excessive compression, bad oiling and crappy tuning), and blowing the head gasket is a risk of any modified engine if you exceed the limits and have a shitty tune, boosted or not.
So you're really not arguing anything that can't be applied to every car except rotaries, which have their own issues.
By your thought process, everyone should be going from A to B and nothing more. Anything that exceeds the "Stock" trim of the car is basically unacceptable is what you're saying. Because you can apply that line of thinking to everything in the car, and if the suspension doesn't hold well enough, there's no sense trying to help it out, you may as well pick up a new car with better handling. Same for the brakes, the air conditioner, the stereo, and so on..... if your car doesn't have it, you should trade for one that does.... thats what you're saying, and quite frankly, its moronic. Its basically the reversal of the whole point of (and I hate this term) hot rodding. You do make some change, you get closer to a limit. Whatever it may be, faster, lower, turn harder, stop quicker, etc..... has a trade off and one of them, nearly 100% of the time, is reliablity. You take the gamble, if it doesn't pay off, you shrug your shoulders, pick up the pieces, smile that you found a way to break something and rebuild it stronger.
I'm done. You don't like it too bad, and this never really stemmed from the original post, this is completely off of a tangent of some severe misperception of what was originally stated. Parting the car out is impossible. Theres too many things done that can't be easily reversed or uninstalled, and I have no shitty factory parts to replace them with. Even at "minimalizing the loss" as you put it, the 8-10K in the car, back on the market as race track used parts is worth peanuts if anything, then dump the car for 8K, maybe get 2-3K for parts and I still have 12 to go before being able to buy anything of boosted use, then 5-7 more on top of that before I have what I have now sans engine, then you screw with the engine and you're right back on the teeter totter gambling with popping it. And you tell me that thats worth it? I think not. There's no way you can break $15,000+ worth of **** in a period of time short enough to notice it.
I'm taking my 160 HP and I'm gonna have my fun. See ya.
And this whole investment thing is bullshit, no one invests in a car. Its a money pit any way you shake it unless its $100,000 or more to begin with, and has a limited edition number in it.

 
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ones opinion needs stated once.

this kinda talk has been done numerous times. this buy a boosted or more powerful car to begin with yadda yadda. ok ive heard that a bazillion times.

boiler-back to business
tampa-its life..people have fun in their own way