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Old Jan 7, 2006
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150 Shot On Stock D17

What would happend if you have stock internals but i,h,e and u put a 150 shot wet kit on? but not use it all the time only 4 times a week?
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your motor would blow up
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Why don't you try it and let us know.
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I had a feeling that what people would say. BUT! My friend has been doing it for around 8months. He keeps it on 100 shot then goes 2 the track and uses the 150.
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does he also have a 7thgen? and is he really stock? if so, then hes an idiot
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Yeah it an 01 lx. all he has is i,h,e and he has i think 40,000 miles on the car and like a few 1,000 with spray hooked up.
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i used a 75 shot and my intake manifold cracked. The first time i went WOT and sprayed...... i thought i was gonna **** my pants when it broke.

his car wont be running much longer, but if its workin good luck too him!
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wow how did that happen i dont see how it would..lol
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theoretically,...your risking your engines life with EVERY shot of nitrous,...am i right?
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not use it all the time only 4 times a week?
That's almost a week , dont do it please
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(Cheese and Rice for all you religious people) anyway we all know we pick up a stock block in F/S for a couple hundred dollars...whats the problem?
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the problem is putting all the stuff back into the block. labor is a bitch. and if this guy don't know wtf a 150 shot will do to a stock motor, im gonna guess that he don't know how to work a complete d17 motor.
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isnt anything above 150 shot suppose to be direct port instead of as a wet shot?
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What kind of times is your buddy running at the track with 150shot?

Honestly I'm surprised he hasn't blown anything up.
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my friend is running a 150 shot like every day. and his engine never breaks. but thats only cause I am a ricer and have no idea what a nitrous kit or a turbo really looks like.
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I smell a rat.
The risk of blowing up your engine while spraying correctly is pretty small.

If you were to spray a 150 shot into the d17 you would blow the intake manifold or fry a piston at least. Even with direct port injection something really bad would happen with one or two sprays.
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Oh nevermind, I did not see that he he keeps it on a 100 shot and only increases boost to 150 for the track. Things are becoming much clearer to me now...
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wont a 150 shot turn your intake manifold into shrapnel?
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Originally Posted by diskreet
my friend is running a 150 shot like every day. and his engine never breaks. but thats only cause I am a ricer and have no idea what a nitrous kit or a turbo really looks like.

DING DING we have a winner There is no way in hell that someone is spraying a 150 shot on a D17. The guys on corvetteforum don't spray a 150 shot unless they have forged internals, and I guarantee you that a 6L V8 can handle nitrous better than the mighty D17. Get us a dyno graph and a video and we'll be a little more receptive.
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Originally Posted by acjones21
DING DING we have a winner There is no way in hell that someone is spraying a 150 shot on a D17. The guys on corvetteforum don't spray a 150 shot unless they have forged internals, and I guarantee you that a 6L V8 can handle nitrous better than the mighty D17. Get us a dyno graph and a video and we'll be a little more receptive.
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Either that or show us the oem pistons with holes in the center then I will believe.
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my friend has a 02 hx with i/h/e led nozzles, and a aluminum wing. He runs a 200 shot of nitrous all day long with no problems, just has to double clutch.
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What kind of kit does he have and what does it run at the track. We all know 150 is impossible for stock, but 100 is possible for maybe a spray or two if you have enough fuel and the coldest plugs u can find.
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Originally Posted by acjones21
DING DING we have a winner There is no way in hell that someone is spraying a 150 shot on a D17. The guys on corvetteforum don't spray a 150 shot unless they have forged internals, and I guarantee you that a 6L V8 can handle nitrous better than the mighty D17. Get us a dyno graph and a video and we'll be a little more receptive.
I agree i think this topic is
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Originally Posted by Hawk
my friend has a 02 hx with i/h/e led nozzles, and a aluminum wing. He runs a 200 shot of nitrous all day long with no problems, just has to double clutch.
double clutch? why not go jdm and triple clutch!
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Heres the deal. A stock sohc d16 or d17 lower end will usually handle, consistently, at MOST a 100 shot of properly tuned direct port nitrous. This means properly retarding ignition timing, having proper a/f ratios, the right plugs, and to be safe, a $500+ progressive nitrous controller to avoid hard hits. Not to mention that the stock D17 intake manifold is kinda thin to be tapping nozzles into. So figure a new custom manifold or a Y8 manifold conversion. We havent changed the clutch yet though, stock clutch is poop in a matter of time. After all that work and money you'd have been better off to tubo it. So yeah umm if you or your friend is spraying a 150 single nozzle shot you'd better get ahold of a couple spare motors. Your average stock sportscar is capable of handling only about a 125-150 shot and they are made to be beat on.
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i can belive it has lasted....i was spraying 75 for a long *** time on my 04 (like a bottle a day) and my compression is fine. I made sure i used 93 and increased my fuel a few percent on my vafc2. I would love to do a comp test on your buddies car to show him how slow his car is going to be when its NA again. 150 is a little much but if your not retarded when spraying it should be fine for a while that is.
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Originally Posted by jackburton
Oh nevermind, I did not see that he he keeps it on a 100 shot and only increases boost to 150 for the track. Things are becoming much clearer to me now...
how much boost of that nawz is he running? does he have a boost gauge for his nawz too?
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