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Old Nov 30, 2005
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I'm impressed with your numbers mane. Good job getting the D17 to that level. Keep up the good work brother.
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Sick man, sick, thats all I can say. Stock engine!
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Is this the most powerful stock d17 yet?

I'm down to fly in and push the hell out if it!!! Lets DO IT, we'll see what she can REALLY do
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Hey Andy I know you said you got it dynoed and tuned @ 13 psi but what are you running daily or is it 13? I'll be AEM tuned by Tuesday with a t25bb so 7th gen with t25 be looking for number soon.
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Originally Posted by Michalo187
^^^^ Easy to say when you don't have to pay the bill hahahaha
True, although him and I have talked about doing this. Last we talked, he was down to push it (tuned properly) to really see what a stock d17 can hold and blow away all the "200whp MAX" myths That, and he's got 2 other d17 motors lying around
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That T25 will not put down nearly as high numbers, but with the AEM you will get impressive numbers for that little turbo. Good luck!

Andy, you need this now!
With the boost your running, now it's feasible. BTW, it's ready to ship





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Very very impressive Andy! Major props!!
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Maybe you and andy can work out some sort of deal so you could get some back-to-back dynos to show the gain with the new manifold (*cough* sponsor him! *cough* )
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DEZOD:
Got Damn that manifold is beautiful!
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so wait, your running 13.5psi on a completely stock lower end? no new pistons, rods, sleeving ????
how? so many people have said it can only withhold like 10psi on even just a t25.
ive got to admit im impressed and im really really interested in how your doing this, its awsome.
oh and any problems with the car yet?
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^^^^ Tuning Tuning Tuning besides that those are all myths has anyone really pushed the stock block to the limits yet? I doubt it so how can you say it only handles ten
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Nope, no problems. It is 100% stock, other than head studs. I have had absolutely no driveability or reliability issues whatsoever. I have about 20k miles on this engine. I am doing this because I have a good tune, that's how it's possible. I know people have blown motors making alot less power than I and I guarantee it's not due to the power but the tune, or lack thereof. I do run 13 psi daily and I beat the crap out of it. And, different turbos make different power at different boost levels so you can't really compare 13 psi on my turbo to 13 psi on a t28, you'll get different numbers, that's why turbos are different.
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thats nice man!
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Originally Posted by andyman97
I really think it's going to take alot with this turbo to make 300. I think it'll probably get me 280-ish wheel but I don't want the added heat. Haven't run at the track yet, I'll hopefully make it Friday night. I would like to see 12's out of it but we'll see.

It pulls really hard. Under WOT, everything is a blur. It's pretty quick, I still want more though. I'll step up the turbo to a gt30r or maybe a 60-1, I've got to figure out what's going to give good efficiency with decent spool still.

dude i would go with gt30r. im doing the same setup but i want the gt30r turbo from full-race.com
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Damn andy. Its good to hear that your getting the numbers you are. Power to you. Congrats to you man. Is this still a lx engine or did you go ex?
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tuning is the most important part of a setup go onto the forced induction thread of HT and you can read thousands of stock bottom end b and d series setups that run 12 and 11sec runs on the track. jeff from full-race ran a completly stock bottom end gsr with a fullrace setup and made close to 400hp with that. tuning is key bottom end time and time again that has been proven
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Originally Posted by EM2typeflex
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Thank you!
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There is hope for my car! i think ima upgrade to everything dezod has and follow this guy till he blows the motor!
And then build the motor!!!

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wow so all that on a turbo. ill just assume a estimate that 13psi on your turbo (t3 60 trim right?) would be like 16psi or something on a t25 from a tsi kit?
and also, i know the answer but do you think its only possible to get a tune good enough to push past like 12psi (for my t25) with a emanage maybe 14psi?
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There is hope for my car! i think ima upgrade to everything dezod has and follow this guy till he blows the motor!
And then build the motor!!!

Thanks for the kind words.
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wow so all that on a turbo. ill just assume a estimate that 13psi on your turbo (t3 60 trim right?) would be like 16psi or something on a t25 from a tsi kit?
and also, i know the answer but do you think its only possible to get a tune good enough to push past like 12psi (for my t25) with a emanage maybe 14psi?
I was running 12psi dailt on my TSI kit with no issues and the TSI fuel management but I was one fo the very few. The better the ability to tune such as the AEM EMS the better and more you can push the limits
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yea but i thought hes running a larger turbo than the tsi kit offers.
so where we might blow our engine on the tsi kit at 10 he would at less psi.
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So with a t3 60 at 13 psi it would produce less than his t3/t04 because of the size? How much less would you expect?
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^ i got no clue, maybe there is some sort of calculator or something online.
im not even sure if thats the turbo he has though.
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So with a t3 60 at 13 psi it would produce less than his t3/t04 because of the size? How much less would you expect?
Find the flow rates
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how do you do that?
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how do you do that?
Most appropriate manufacturers websites have them posted.
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Originally Posted by ncirom2003
yea but i thought hes running a larger turbo than the tsi kit offers.
so where we might blow our engine on the tsi kit at 10 he would at less psi.
the tsi kit can actually go to about 16 psi on a good tune I know this because I did but because of not having better fuel handling etc I backed it down to 12psi. andy is running a bit larger turbo and the EMS which allows more specific tuning of timing, fuel etc.. 10 psi on a t25 or t28 will not blow an engine if tuned good in reality
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