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does anyone in this site know if the ems requires any extra plugs because like the e-manage you need all the extra harness such as pressure sensor etc... will I need extra parts with my aem ems if I get it? I could get the ems for same price as all those e-manage parts so someone plz help.

 
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Well the AEM EMS is a standalone, that is specific to the car you'regetting getting. The one made for our motors is not out yet, the one made for the RSX is which would work with ours.
Then they have the universal one they are coming out with, but I don't think that's out yet.

 
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Do a search. I read a post not long ago that one of the members had it working in his 7th gen.

 
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completely plug and play, I have it. you will need to rewire your a/c switch (i didnt because i dont have a/c) and put in a temp guage if you want to know coolant temp. It is a great computer but it eliminates OBD system so for states requiring the plug in test for emmisions you will need to get a hook up on a sticker somehow.

 
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you will want a laptop and you HAVE to have it DYNO TUNED. It is a must. You will run it on the base maps but it will run like hell. It wont take long for an experienced tuner to get it all set. Read all the dirrections they supply you also. There is a lot of info in there and you can make things really simple or really complicated with all of the options they give you.

 
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ems forum has base maps for an ex N/A. to run boost the maps need to be reworked extensively and I would recommend getting their 3.5 bar map sensor. Dont boost the car at all with the na maps, you will destroy the engine in a blink of an eye.

 
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gonna get me the aem to but the one for the ex!

 
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There is a lot of confusion on this topic. Just to let everyone know, the EMS is pretty much the best engine management out for these cars, unless you have a k20/24 w/k-pro or a $3500+ motec there is nothing that comes even close. I have had all the other piggyback styles in my car and there is no comparison. Basically the car runs like a factory boosted car. Not to mention it pulls so much harder than when I had my emanage.
Everything is so precise with no hassles or check engine bull. You have full control of all the sensors, disable/enable and parameters. For instance say you wanna check the timing, you can shut off the injectors so you dont spray fuel while cranking it over. There are launch/traction control functions, boost control which apears to be gear relative if you program your gear ratios(haven't tryed it so dont hold me to it). Full nitrous control wet or dry. You can run 1000cc injectors on a stock motor and idle fine! It has a full digital dash that is completely customizable and it will show data for any sensor with programable warnings and limits that displays through your laptop. You can wire in switches to the ecu to turn stuff on, any feature or sensor apears to be switchable by load, rpm, throttle postion, or by a basic switch, not to mention you can add universal switched stuff with the option of being switched to ground or power. For example alchy injection(you wont even need it)or an intercooler sprayer, you could set it to turn on through the ecu at a set boost level without any mechanical hassles of vaccuum lines or sensors wot switches etc..... The datalogger can record every sensor that is plugged in plus im pretty sure it will record input and output votages for other stuff that you might wire up. Im just skimming the surface on what this thing could do for you. It's consistant, non limiting, UPDATABLE, and fairly easy to figure out if you are good with an emanage. It will record a/f ratios without the wideband from like 12.5 to 15 if memory serve me right, so boosted guys will wanna get the uego model.
The 1070 is made for a swapped EX but will work on any d17 or k20 setup with our newer style plugs. I have it running on a boosted D17a2 and it really really made way more power with the ems then the emanage. In fact I made so much extra power on this setup I stretched the rod bolts and spun some bearings. We will find out soon what d17s can do because we are doing a totally sick engine build. Just gotta get up some more dough to give to the machine shop. We already have about 4k into the engine in custom parts. Dont say "shoulda gone k20" hehe. We want to see what happens when the crappy d17 gets the royal treatment. wow long post have fun reading it. later guys.

 
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Exactly what I was thinking "let's see what the D17 can do"

 
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You still planning on using that motor that crower is testing??? I got a custom ground cam from Brian. He is a really good guy to talk to. Just wondering what you were doing for engine management and if you have gotten a chance to play with the motor in a car yet??

 
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I am thinking bout using the AEM EMS for engine management.

 
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It would be a wise investment as our factory computers are not very user friendly, you wouldn't be dissapointed, with the exception of depleting your savings account. hehe

 
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yep i am also going to use the aem ems to go with my custom setup!
because you can realy do everthing with this one and that is what we need
to get this baby running smooth!
@02fpcivic :thx for this verification on this 1

 
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Please don't mind me asking but 02fpcivic where did you buy your EMS and how much did it cost. Thanks

 
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Because I have a tC and follow aftermarket parts a lot, I'd like to clarify on the Universal EMS...

The Universal EMS is now available, but you can not buy it online. It is available only through certified AEM install shops. It can not just be purchased. Once buying from a certified shop, that shop must install it. The shops that sell these went through specail courses to learn the AEM EMS inside and out to esnure a correct programming.

 
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Under what circumstances did you spin the rod bearings? was it above the stock redline? Or just making some good power? I am thinking about upgrading my rod bolts as a safeguard against this. Do you think that someone could change the rod bolts with the engine in the car, by removing the oil pan? It looks like they are the first thing to fail in our bottom end.

 
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Yes the rod bolts can be removed by just putting the car on a lift and removing the oill pan. And then simply turn the engine to bring down the different connecting rods so that you can change the bolts.

 
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My car is the one they used for testing. Im still going to wait for the other model (30- 1030) so i wont loose the A/C or coolant gauge.

 
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I spun the rod bearings because I stretched the rod bolts, exceeded there HP rating apparently. Lucky for me I was paying attention and the crank is ok because I shut the car off right away. As for me I bought my unit from Lightning motorsports. They had the ems to me in 1 1/2 weeks and that was including the wait for the release on them. I think it was around 1600 with the 3.5 bar map sensor. You probably can find a better price but I talked to the guy about putting the ecu in a d17 car and he was very knowledgable and easy to talk to. I would much rather spend a couple extra bucks with the people that go out of their way to help you than go to the person trying to undercut everyones prices. There customer service is awesome. I was told by someone that they arent focusing so much on the 1030 box because the d17-only box wont sell as easily and since we still have the option of using the 1070 that the 1030 is on the back burner for now. Anyone know if there is any truth to that????

 
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oh btw I was reving the car to about 7200 and actually making power there. Our stock lower end is almost identical to a d16 so reving isnt as bad as it may seem. However there is no sense doing it unless it makes power up there. I pretty much more than doubled the HP and thats why they stretched. I know this sounds dumb but the motor was gunna get built anyways so I wanted to push the bounds and see what it could take. I had most of the money at the time and pretty much all the rest now so no big deal. I am using darton MID sleeves for a d16, modified eagle rods,je pistons that are peened and balancing all around so the only thing major inside that will be oem is the crank, which I am told will hold as much as I can make with that motor. This should be very interesting to see what happens. I am capable of tuning it myself but I will be sending it to trick engineering in NH. With this much money into a car you dont street tune. hehe later guys

 
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Thanks

 
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no doubt u can make tons of hp on the d. people have gone over 400 with turboed d16's so in time d17's should be up to par.

 
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according to JP at AEM the 1030 is the next to get released but yeah its not something they are pushing to get out on the shelf right now.

 
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You should meet up with me and and the team I'm with, Deceptive Illusionz. Nas23 has a fully built shortblock for the D17 that's sitting in my garage right now and we're been talking to trick engineering. PM me back if you want, his is boosted too. We're also starting the turbo kit for the tC now.

Sorry to get OT, just thought I'd throw that up there.

 
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Hey you are doing guys like me a favor by pushing the limits and discovering the weak links in our engines. Thanks

 
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if only i had the money/time id love to push my car to see how big of numbers it could make and still be just as reliable as the day i bought it. But unfortunately i dont...im happy with my stepup now and have had no huge issues that I've had to deal with. I may keep the civic a while if i dont get a subaru, and i may get the EMS once it comes out for the D17, but only time will tell. Good luck with with your setup 02fpcivic