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Old Apr 17, 2005
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How do you run your IC piping on both sides?

I am just wondering for those of you that have your intercooler piping on both sides and have an LX model civic where you just remove the windshield washer fluid bottle, how did you run the IC piping on the drivers' side? It seems like the AC/Power Steering/Alternator would get int he way and I was wondering what you guys did. Thanks for the help.
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that is opto's...he can still use a/c and powersteering

if you run your ic piping from the compressor housing to the intercooler by way of the drivers side, then you will have to remove a/c and powersteering, but what every way that you go, the alternator will not be in the way
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Originally Posted by jwcardy
if you run your ic piping from the compressor housing to the intercooler by way of the drivers side, then you will have to remove a/c and powersteering
Nope, just go barely below those things, then come back up and loop around to the intercooler. If you use a .25" bigger pipe for the bend then you won't lose any spool or power. That's how mine was done and in over 2 years I have not hit that pipe on anything. There are still parts of the car that hang lower, like the exhaust.

This way, the piping is shorter and has less bends, and you don't have that extremely stupid bend inside the intercooler that hurts spool so much that you would have if you had the pipes in and out of the intercooler on the same side. Better to use a pipe for a bend than the inside of an intercooler.
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Nope, just go barely below those things, then come back up and loop around to the intercooler. If you use a .25" bigger pipe for the bend then you won't lose any spool or power. That's how mine was done and in over 2 years I have not hit that pipe on anything. There are still parts of the car that hang lower, like the exhaust.

This way, the piping is shorter and has less bends, and you don't have that extremely stupid bend inside the intercooler that hurts spool so much that you would have if you had the pipes in and out of the intercooler on the same side. Better to use a pipe for a bend than the inside of an intercooler.
do you have any pics of how you ran your piping?
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well, i am against the going under everything method because of where i live and the roads in my area...plus, my car is dropped 2.5 inches in the front....
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power steering is important though
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Here's the best shot I have of it. It looks like it hangs low, but it's no lower than the exhaust system and barely lower than the stock splashguards. The rear splashguard is the thing you see hanging down almost in the center of the car, it hangs about 1/2 inch below the level of the pipe. I haven't hit it on anything, and our roads are some of the worst I've ever seen.

Just go straight down out of the turbo, go towards the driver side (that's the pipe size increase I was talking about), loop back and up, and you're there.
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Hey Riceburner thats a great shot of your ride man ... off topic but what size tires are those??? Anyhow, when I start installing my setup, I'm going this same route ... It just seems that the intake charge has a more direct route this way ...
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Originally Posted by jwcardy
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that is opto's...he can still use a/c and powersteering

if you run your ic piping from the compressor housing to the intercooler by way of the drivers side, then you will have to remove a/c and powersteering, but what every way that you go, the alternator will not be in the way
Nobody should ever say, you cant keep a/c and power steering. You can, it fits right below them, there are no fitment issues. I have no rattling, no probs, and we figured it out pretty fast how to do it.

Just keep looking, and trying out different angles, you will eventually get it. If you are using the TSI kit, the pipe by the drivers side wheel, will have to be replaced. I bought a flexitube from an auto parts store. Not too much, just get the same diameter, than you can bend the piping to how you need it. It basically needs to be straight.
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my car is like 2" dropped, and the piping hangs about 2" lower on the drivers side front, coming out of the IC. it sucks pretty bad. I am gonna try flipping over the IC, and see if it fixes anything. I hope so. If not, time for some custom pipes.
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I've got some pictures of pipes going in one side and out the other in my members ride photos.
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I dont have any good pics u/led. Ill try to get some on in a little bit and show ya mine.
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ok ok ok...i take back what i said....you dont have to remove a/c and power steering, but i live in the country....most of you live in the city...am i correct...where i live, roadkill is a common thing...the lowest point on my front bumper is 2 3/4"....if the pic is correct on rice burnerex's car, his ic piping comes below the subframe...that will not work on my car...that mean if i hit a bump and the front suspension gives, the ic piping is coming off....so therefor, i am removing my a/c compressor to make room....plus it will have a little add protection being behind the radiator support and stuff...my car is low....trust me...
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Originally Posted by Drk01Civic
I've got some pictures of pipes going in one side and out the other in my members ride photos.

yeah, yours is ran similar to optos...but i can run my that way because i am going with a y8 intake mani
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but i live in the country....most of you live in the city...am i correct...where i live, roadkill is a common thing...




Sorry, I found this humorous.

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Originally Posted by 2K1Civic17"Gabe
Nobody should ever say, you cant keep a/c and power steering. You can, it fits right below them, there are no fitment issues. I have no rattling, no probs, and we figured it out pretty fast how to do it.

Just keep looking, and trying out different angles, you will eventually get it. If you are using the TSI kit, the pipe by the drivers side wheel, will have to be replaced. I bought a flexitube from an auto parts store. Not too much, just get the same diameter, than you can bend the piping to how you need it. It basically needs to be straight.
I bought buddyleeboosted's intercooler, piping, and bov that came from his tsi kit and the pipe by the driver side wheel fits perfect. I know this because I was the one to uninstall it.
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that was funny, I just didnt respond.
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anybody else have pictures of their charge pipe on the drivers side?
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Hold on, Ill go take some pics and try to get them down in size before I leave work.

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Here ya go.






Sorry if my Engine bay is dirty. It needs a clean again. Been a few weeks. I need to used my aluminum polish tonight. I hope these answered your questions. If you need the other side, Ill take pics, but thats pretty simple. You may need to hammer some of the frame in on either side, and also take out the windshield washer resorvoir. You wont fit the piping with it on.
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In the second pic, you can see a pulley right behind the piping. You need to use a ziptie to hold it out of the way. You can route the piping a little better than TSI did ifyour going custom. Bring in the pics if you need, and show the people doing it. They'll figure out a better way themselves Im sure. Cuz I cant turn right very far. They could have worked that out very simple.
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those of you that have your charge pipe on the driver's side, will 2.5" piping work or does it have to be 2" piping?
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Gabe your piping on the driverside looks a bit odd. Almost like the piece on your driverside, inside the bumper actually belongs on the passenger side. I have the tsi piping and intercooler also and the piping I have doesnt come that far out inside the bumper like that. It hugs the core-support and frame as it wraps around.
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I used 2", but ive seen it done with 2.5" I'm still in the process of fabing the rest of the piping and awaiting $$$$$ for e-manage!!


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Originally Posted by thiscrackerntam
Gabe your piping on the driverside looks a bit odd. Almost like the piece on your driverside, inside the bumper actually belongs on the passenger side. I have the tsi piping and intercooler also and the piping I have doesnt come that far out inside the bumper like that. It hugs the core-support and frame as it wraps around.

Its a flexi-tube, hehe. The pipe they gave me with their kit had a funky bend in it that didnt work. We ended up warping/melting the pipe with a torch the night we were installing the piping. it was funny, I was just watching them heat it up and try to bend it. 5 minutes later of the torch being on it, I saw it turn blue, I was just thinking, "haha, its fudged". they kept holding the torch, and it started warping. They kept the torch on longer, and it melted, they kept the torch on STILL, hahaha. It was messed up pretty bad. So we bought a flexitube from a 24hr auto parts store, and threw that biyatch on there. Fits perfect, hahaha.

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Originally Posted by tfnaaf
I used 2", but ive seen it done with 2.5" I'm still in the process of fabing the rest of the piping and awaiting $$$$$ for e-manage!!


do you have hood clearance issues with that? how did you bend the piping so that it doesnt hit the hood?
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Originally Posted by kirks04ex
do you have hood clearance issues with that? how did you bend the piping so that it doesnt hit the hood?
If you look close at where the A/C and power steering line runs i ENGINEERED a new bracket for it(bent it down a bit) And i prolly have 1-1.5" of clearance atleast on the top side and i could have even made it lower if i tried. I didnt bend the piping at all, i made the pipe using mandrel U-bends and cut them at the lengths and place of the bend that i needed and lined it all up like a puzzle. then welded it all together. I may remake a small section at that center weld. from an angle its not a perfect transistion if i get bored before i boost!
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