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Old Mar 11, 2005
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Diy K20a2 Swap In Progress - Into Auto Coupe

My K20 swap date has finally come!!!!

I have been counting the days since January when i picked up my type-s setup. I will be swapping into a NBP automatic coupe.

I will be documenting the whole swap. I will try to be sas detailed as possible to help anyone with any doubts about what needs to be done. It will be done in my garage with the help of my friend (hes running a 93 hatch fully built B20 w/30 psi- 9s 1/4mile!!)

This swap i hope will be done in a few days. Following i will post a DIY guide to document exactly what i did. I have put in countless hours researching this swap and know quite a bit about it. But ill only fully understand it when i do it. I have never done a swap before but im pretty good with a wrench.

Type-s Goodies to go in with swap:
-Hasport Motor Mounts - I may make my own custom moutn brackets for the stock mounts.
-IMG - for starters i have installed a Hondata Intake Manifold gasket. This will reduce intake temps. The K20's enemy is heat so this should cool things down.
-DCRH - this is a DC race header (no cat straight thru)
-Cold air intake (generic)
-Stock Type-s exhaust (for now)
- JDM shiftter (brushed aluminum with red 6spd lettering)
- Shift bushings (for tighter shifting feel)
- AEM pulley set (may not use due to hood clearance- the p.s. pulley is slightly larger than stock)

Any comments are welcomed!!
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awesome, i can't wait for your diy
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Thats sick, good luck with the swap. I have an auto too so i'm looking forward to the DIY.
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thats kool, a type s engine with a auto
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Old Mar 12, 2005
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ok... you know u need the pedals, clutch, brake, clutch master cylinder. major wiring done. shifter box, cables... blah blah blah... look at the hasport site and it shows everything you need...
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Very nice man. It'd be awesome if you take lots of pics and do document everything. Best of luck.
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just a suggestion...to avoid any flamage by any members in the near future postings, post pics soon.
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Originally Posted by HondaLuver
ok... you know u need the pedals, clutch, brake, clutch master cylinder. major wiring done. shifter box, cables... blah blah blah... look at the hasport site and it shows everything you need...
Yeah ive done all of that. How has your parts searching been going? Arent you putting together a k20/24 hybrid?

I was doing the same before but i want to get some fun out of the k20 block before i do anything to it.
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Pics will be coming soon. Ive been working all day today onthe swap.

SWAP STATUS:

- In one days work we managed to do quite a bit. It was me and 2 of my buddies working.
- We put in about 9 hours of solid working plus some lunch and dinner.
-We have removed the puny d17 out of teh engine bay.
-installed hasport motor mount kit. BTW: im not too impressed with the kit.
-swapped the subframes
-installed the clutch pedal and lines (because i have an auto)
-installed the shifter and shift cables
-swapped the high pressure p.s. line

TOMORROW:
-go to hardware store to buy bolts for Hasport mounts
-do wiring modifications.
-drop type-s motor in
-hook up lines (cooling, fuel, etc.)
-swap fuel pumps



Sorry guys no pics yet. Theyre still in the camera(at my buddies garage).
SOON!!
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So why are you not going 6spd? I dont get it.
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how much did all the parts come out to be
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Originally Posted by SevenCyrus
So why are you not going 6spd? I dont get it.

I was thinking the same thing...
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He is going 6-speed. He's going from a former auto civic, so he has to install the clutch pedals, shifter..

Good progress there DFCivic so far, pretty fast imho.
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Originally Posted by winnerpl
He is going 6-speed. He's going from a former auto civic, so he has to install the clutch pedals, shifter..

Good progress there DFCivic so far, pretty fast imho.
Ahhhhh, ic ic. Damn dude you rock. And your doing yourself....thats what i call a real "tunner".
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JUST GOT BACK FROM ANOTHER DAY!!!

WERE JUST KNOCKING THIS THING OUT!!!!

UPDATE:

-we got the motor in (was a close fit!!)
-installed my dc race header
-put the axles and my wheels back on
-hooked up some hoses
- 1/2 of the wiring done


Tomorrow:
-hook up rest of the hoses
-finish wiring
- tie up loose ends

The swap has been going very smoothly. We have not encountered any major problems. The motor was being a little stubborn but we eventually fit it in the bay. This motor just looks so sexy in my ride
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nice, keep us posted. man that would be insane.
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Damn you are making good progress, can't wait to see how it turns out.
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hope everything turns out well. I-vtec is gonna be alot of fun lol
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god damn i need to rob a fvcking bank or somthing, i dont think i can wait 2 more years of working to swap.
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are you relocating your battery to the trunk? If not how are you moving the mount for it to the drivers side? is it bolt in or welded in?
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Originally Posted by djmota
are you relocating your battery to the trunk? If not how are you moving the mount for it to the drivers side? is it bolt in or welded in?
For the battery im probably going to use the 3 engine mount bolts as mounting points fro a battery rack plate. We havnt done this yet but i need a thick piece of metal for the plate. The thing is i have a yellow top optima battery that can be mounted on its side so ill do this to avoid hood clearance issues.

Rear mounting the battery is a pain in the

Really good question!
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Today we made good progress:

I thought we'd be done by now, but its the little things that take the most time.

Wiring is the challenge for me, i keep putting it off. Were going to tackle it tomorrow. IF ANYONE HAS SOLID INFORMATION abuot how to wire the engine up please let me know. I want to get it right the first time.


UPDATE:

-hooked up fuel line (got it from civic SI)
-hooked up coolant hoses (from SI)
-prepped radiator and fans (from SI)
-did battery cable extension
-hooked up power steering lines (custom fab'd for low pressure)

LEFT OVER:
-intake (dont have one, may use stock for now)
-a/c (may just worry about this in the summer since it needs some custom ****. I have all the lines from the si but still not the same)
-fuel pump
-exhaust (getting custom done. You can use any civic exhaust though)
Im going to run open header fro a few days!!!

With my DC race header DCRH its going to sound MEAN!!
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BTW: we only put in about 3 hours.

We both work during the day.

So so far: day 1 - 9 hrs
day 2- 9 hrs
day 3 - 3hrs

Not bad.
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wow, sounds like your having a blast doing this, Cant wait to see pictures and updates.
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nice we got to see those pics. I will be doing my swap myself when the time comes so these little notes are a great insight. I plan on getting the swap harness from hassport. thats one can of worms i am not interested in. Keep it up.
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Sounds awesome man! Keep us updated and can't wait to see the pics!
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Another few hours today

STATUS:

-Finished wiring!!!
-hooked up battery (custom battery mount...looks HOT!!)
-used d17 Aem intake that i had (also custom fitted - temporary)
-installed radiator
-filled all fluids
-shaved underside of hood for p.s.

WELL GUYS, WE TRIED STARTING IT TODAY AND IT CRANKED BUT DIDNT START.
I think its the immobilizer. BUt i was under the impression that it would drive in limp mode for like 25 miles or something. Going to take it to the dealer to have it reflashed and hopefully itll work.

I checked spark and were not getting any spark. I hooked up the fuel pump direct to power in hope bypass the immobilizer but still didnt turn over.

If anyone has any suggestions please let me know.
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how u gona take to dealer? Tow?
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