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I have been reading up on turbos for days now, but there is one question that I havent come across an answer to. How come so many members are selling their turbos? Not enough power, need the money, trading the car, reliability issues? I really want to look into boost, but all the people selling their kits sends a more powerful message then the few threads of members praising their turbos. Is anyone out there enjoying their turbo, and running it trouble free???

 
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i am enjoying mine and so far in the 10 months that i have been boosted, i have been about 90% trouble free. I just had a problem with my in-line fuel pumps, but i got that figured out.

I would love to sell mine, if fact i wanna sell my whole car. Why.........b/c i want a faster one. These sohc's aren't worth dumping the money into to make it fast.

 
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AMEN brother!!

 
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its all fun and games til u cant go any faster. i personally still like mine, no one on here would buy mine if i tried, most of the people on here want turbos so cheap its ridiculous, 2000 bucks, ha, u couldnt get my turbo, intercooler and downpip for that little money, but anyways i still like it, and its been alot of trouble

 
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Thanks for the input guys. I really appreciate it.

It seems like most people are having problems running high boost, but what if I ran non-intercooled about 6 psi, using only a turbo, manifold, and a pipe, with no BOV? I am wondering if this could be done and be good for maybe 170 whp or so. Ill be happy to rep for input.

 
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Anyone??

 
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dont waste ur time doing what u stated

 
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its nice but most people ar going to top out at around 180isgh hp without doing internals and with internals it toped out around 300hp at least for catalist due to tranny issues.
300 is not that fast, fun sleeper but not that fast compared to others.

 
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say bye bye motor to what you stated. turbo as well, since you have no lines going to it. TO get a custom kit done by shopping for the cheapest stuff, and w/o an IC would be like 3000 bucks still. Just buy a good kit (Dezods) if you want to turbo. Or have a shop do it that knows what their doing. Your car would not last long at all, IMO.

I believe most people are selling their turbos (and not telling anybody why) because they are blowing their motor, need a new motor, or just have so many issues from doing stuff incomplete (TUNING!!!!!!!!). or no fuel system. Dont do it, until you are very confident about it. Ihave been reading for a good year, and I believe I understand pretty much everything, and the install will help me learn the rest. I am having people who know what they are doing help me as well.

 
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How come? It seems like if I could run this I would have a lot more torque on hand, and I would alleviate all of the problems of running large amounts of boost. Not saything that I wouldnt bulk up my internals as well, but running a small turbo with no intercooler, or BOV seems like it might be the perfect fix for a little extra hp. I dont mean to waste everyones time with speculation, but I havent seen this idea brought up yet.

 
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you never mentioned fuel, computer, oil lines....... etc etc etc. You cant just slap that on there and go. There is more work than your thinking. plus lots more money

 
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how would you know what boost you are running. like how many lbs? How would you know how your oil pressure or a/f is? Gauges along will bring you up to 150-200 more.

 
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The only problem I am having with my setup is my idle - which makes me want to sell my kit....

But every time I stomp on the gas when I pass someone on the highway puts a big smile back on my face!

 
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STOP right there, a BOV doesnt ADD HP. no intercooler will make ur intake air hotter than ****, and thus defeat all purposes.

 
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Ha ha ha, you butchered my quote, the BOV was on the list and not part of an independent claim saying that it will add hp.

 
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I know there is a lot more going into it, but I am not going out to create as much HP as possible, and thus with a conservative turbo setup I think I might get better results. I dont want turbo lag, burned clutches, and a great time slip, I just want a little more oomph when I accelerate.

 
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Ok, I understand what yourthinking. But either way, your gonna need to run sme oil to the turbo, or that will blow on you. And if you dont have more fuel, and your boosting like 5 or 6 psi, for that little oomph, your motor will blow. I suggest in the least you get a VAFCII or SAFCII. You will run lean if you add more air to your motor, with no extra fuel. I understand how much y ou want to boost, but wait till you have more money, and do it reliably. I have been waiting for a year, and TOMORROW IM ORDERING A KIT FINALLY!!! Today if I get the rest of my cash, which there is a good chance. But for 2600 I get a complete kit w/IC, fuel system, injectors, BOV, and turbo timer, etc, etc. Complete kit for a little boost for 2600. you will have to spend at least that if you want to be reliable. JMO.

Anybody else have opinions.

Cars that have stock turbos (which is what it sounds like you sort of want HPwise) like VWs and Audis are tuned so that they are running a little rich or not lean at all. Either way, you need more fuel and thats that. If not, say good bye to your motor.

 
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You'll need a fuel setup first. More air and no more fuel = BOOM. ECU can't compensate.

No BOV OR intercooler? Two words: Heat Soak. Heat from WOT pressure and part throttle pressure.

Run it with only the components listed and you pop the motor from no fuel and too much heat. Be warned.

You can't run 2lbs on just those pieces. If you have other components, then feel free to list them and we can get back to the topic at hand....

 
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thats what I was thinking, if you runs as low as 1 or 2 psi, you can still blow your motor fast. Dont do it. Just save and buymore, you will be much happier witha reliable boosted car.

 
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I just dont think you need to spend 2600 for a complete kit, unless you plan on running a lot of boost. Well bare minimum- Rsx injectors, t3 super 60 turbo, manifold, S-AFC II, and a wastegate, and of course piping and what not. The intercooler and the BOV can come later if I don't like the results. Plenty of people run turbos without intercoolers, or BOV's.

 
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I was locally quoted for 400-600 for installation, and 1370 for parts (some used, some wholesale). I think the parts quote included BOV and intercooler as well.

 
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I thoiught only water cooled turbos could be run w/o an intercooler lol

 
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You can run any turbo basically w/o one, but it isnt very smart. Hot a** air.

Im hoping all that is the bare minimum that you are planning on getting. I would still say IC, there are lots of people I have seen w/o a BOV, but you might as well just get those as well, and instead of VAFCII, get emanage for alittle more. It will work with RSX injectors I believe, but not the VAFCII (wont compensate).

thesmuggler-I think he wants to blow his motor, thats whats hes trying to do here.

 
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oh, and be carefuly of used parts. A used turbo is not a good idea, get a new turbo so it doesnt F up on you.

 
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Everyone and there dont get used turbos. You can get a used turbo and have it rebuilt and itll run good as new =)

 
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If you installed it yourself, you could use that $400-$600 for an intercooler, BOV, and probably the difference in price for the Emanage over the VAFC.

 
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good idea^^