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I just want people to respond in here that acually have the TSI kit. I know eternalblue has it. I have basically decided on that kit. I have heard about problems with the kit, but I couldnt find any forums that actually explain what was wrong with it? If people with the kit, could state any problems (fitment, incomplete kit, etc.) they are having or had, that would be great. Also, how do you like the kit. Good gain off of it, drive nicely? Was there any fuel system with it? or boost controllers? I am figuring I will have to buy that stuff seperate, at the price the TSI kit is. I will be getting mine tuned the day of or day after installation, since my car has to be reliable. Thanks a lot for any info.

I did search again and again and again. It didnt come up with much for this kit. I think the TSI confuses search function.

Peace

Chris

 
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Here is what i found over at Honda-tech.com I would contact him about it.

 
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THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I am more excited now that it comes with all those extras, PIMP! They have such a good price on it. I wonder if they fixed the charge pipe, or changed the way it was setup. I believe it hangs way down, and Im dropped a couple inches right now. There are always atlernate roads in my town that are totally smooth, so I guess I will have to get used to them. I cant wait. Give me a month and Ill be booooooosted. I will have the kit ordered in the next 6 or 7 days though. Thank you again! Anybody that has the kit, and opinions on how much you like it? What RPMs does it spool on manual 01 lx coupe. what type of numbers are you making? Anything at all you may want to add. Maybe upgrades you did?

 
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Here are the specs with the different fuel systems. Would you guys go with 1 or 2, and why? I have a LX, but can still use the VAFCII. And Ill be throwing a ex head on sometime anyways. Anybody know anything about the TSI fuel management?


Brand: TSI
Desc: 01 & Up Honda Civic
Type: Extreme Kit
Status: Ready to ship
Price: $2899.00

Civic Extreme Turbo Kits Include:
- Garrett T25 Turbo w/ Wastegate
- Cast Exhaust Manifold
- Chrome Heat Shield
- Downpipe w/ Gasket
- Map Unit (Black Box)
- TSI Blow Off Valve (BOV)
- TSI High Flow Front-Mount Intercooler
- Polished Aluminum Intercooler Piping
- SS Braided lines for Water Cooling
- SS Braided lines for Oiling
- Return Hose and Fittings for Oil to Pan
- All Hoses & Clamps
- All Necessary Hardware & Fittings
- Generic Install Instructions
Fuel System Option 1:
- 2 Injectors & Interface Block
- TSI Injection Control Unit w/ Turbo Timer
- Injector Control System Settings

Fuel System Option 2:
- APEXi V-AFC II
- APEXi Turbo Timer
- Boost Gauge

 
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I would go with neither, tjhen run rsx-s injectors and greddy emanage

 
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IMO, do not buy from turbo-kits.com!!! They charge $200 more than needboost.com and Streetlevelperformance.com does! Would you rather pay $2900 or $2600 for the exact same kit? The kit does come with TSI's injector block. It acts like a carborator, spraying extra fuel into the intake runners to compensate for the lack of fuel the stock injectors can't supply. The MAP unit that comes with the kit supports up to 14psi.

The other sites sell the kit with only fuel option 1, which is what TSI's intention for the kit to be sold with. Option 2 would be for a person with larger injectors over stock. If you ran this kit running option 2 on stock injectors, you'll burn hella lean.

I have this kit, and my problems included only bad fitment with the manifold, and the charge piping was confusing. If ur having this professionally install, u have nothing to worry about.

I'm running the ball bearing T25 kit @9 lbs and walked away from a 14.6 sec 6thgen SI friday night.

You'll enjoy the kit

 
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Fuel system #1 is better but Thesmuggler is right Type S injectors, emanage and return line.

 
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I actually posted the wrong site. It is needboost that I Im gonna order from. They told me it comes with the SAFCII. How would I be running lean? Because the SAFC cant add more fuel? I hope I get new injectors included from needboost. I decided I would go w/#1, but now they only have option #2 I believe at needboost. What should I get in order to not run lean with the setup they are giving me (SAFCII, turbo timer, boost guage)

Wouldnt it run around another 1200 for type s injectors, emanage, and return line?

 
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It depends on what you need for emeange., just the emeange alone i can get for about 280-290 shipped... but if you want like ALL the addons wich is reccomended for good tunning, it's about 600... the SLP kit is another 650, and then the injectors will run you about 90 =)

 
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Can I just upgrade injectors for now to avoid running lean?

Wait, I misread. So, I wont be running lean with optioin #1, correct? That should be fine, I dont think needboost would have option #2. The person who responded may not have known. I am waiting on another e-mail from them, so hopefully Ill find out what exactly it comes with for the fuel system. I feel better now. I didnt think I would need a quick 1,000 worth of upgrades to make it work proper. I will be installing it with my friends who have turbo'd vics, or with other friends who know what they are doing. I may havea mechanic friend help out. I will be getting tuned directly after that within a day or two.
I cant wait to order this. My money needs to get deposited ASAP! Hopefully by friday this will be ordered.

So I should be fine for now with fuel system #1 up top^^. And later would I be able to just swap out injectors for some type s injectors? I dont have to do any other modifications for those correct? Than would the SAFCII (if thats what they include) be able to compensate for larger injectors. I hear that the AFCII's only go by the stock size injector, so you wouldnt be able to use the larger ones correctly. Still running lean, correct?

Thanks a lot, sorry if confusing.

 
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/\/\thats the best thing to get if $$ is no issue

 
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Well, heres what I've read and been led to believe. Everyone switches to the rsx-s injectors and emanage combo because the emanage comes with the injector correction factor, which lets you set what you USED to have (a la 240cc for my ex civic) and then lets you set what the NEW injectores you've put in are (i dunno what cc the S's are). The safv wont let you do this since it only compensates for your stock injectors, and will only allow you to dump as much fuel as stock would allot, reguardless of if you havebigger injectors. =) Someone clear this if I'm wrogn but I'm sure I'm right. You wont necessarily run lean if you keep the boost down, but if you up it and hit the max limit for stock injectors with that safc it wont add anymore fuel, even if you have bigger injectors, causing the lean burn.

 
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with emange and dc5 injectors, will the emanage control the new injectors to run the currect a/f ratio on its own?

 
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Got me there, LOL, I dunno

 
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That would make tuning soooooooo easy! But wouldn't that seem possible? I mean, the ecu on n/a d17s control the stock injectors to run properly, why couldn't emanage or something to that effect splice into the O2 sensors, bypass the ecu, and run the bigger injectors like the ecu would?

 
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Well, it does have that injector correction factor, kinda functions the same i guess, but I eman were adding in mad fuel, the ecu dosent really have to adjust like 2 or 3 points you know, it usually prob only adjust within the point range. This aint no Gaurdian y0! lol. BTW I heard you had an EX, did you take out the A/C to get the I/C piping torun correctly up the drivers side?

 
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The SMUGGLER!!!!
I am sorry if i didnt read correctly, but did you say that if you get bigger injectors and the SAFCII that you would still run lean... well if so.. thats incorrect. cuz i have RC' 310's and the S-AFC tuned in and its way more fuel then what Type S injectors would ever give you.
anyhow!. you will need to get a custom Fuel RAIL designed cuz bigger injectors will just not fit into the stock one....

 
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Well, I think were all talking about stock stuff LOL

 
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O my bad.. lol

haha
Yea STock injectors would not be enough fuel for even on IDLE>.
lol
on IDLE you will be runnin lean with stock injectors.....

 
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Try it with Type-S injectors. I would honestly go with the emanage over the safc

 
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From what you listed, you could run #1, but to be honest, you should be running something like the e-manage. VAFC really won't do what you need it to. athen again, pretty much all types of fuel systems have been run on here and if you know what you are doing and keep the boost down a little, people have been able to get it to run decent.


This might help too
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=184031

 
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yea his right,,, the only problem our cars have on this kit is most likeley the FUEL situation.. as long as you have fuel dumpin in there youll be fine....

 
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ive been talking to many people about the TSI kit, the ONLY problem most of them had was to shave the turbo manifold, everything else fit right in

 
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yeah and the tsi's fuel system isnt that bad as people say it is

 
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right on, thanks alot. Ima cuise like a granny down to the dyno within a day of getting it installed. It wont be on till I save up some money for a dyno tune as well. I am having a shop that specializes in built turbo'd vics, integras, imports and sh**. So I shouldnt be running lean, they know exactly how to get it to run perfect. Than after that Ima be boostin! Just need a clutch and tires (have the kit money/dyno) Should have tires next monday or tuesday, and a clutch within 2 weeks from than. Im freakin excited, it sounds likea pretty good kit, not many probs with it. Everybody that blows their motors think they can go around tuned by themselves. They need to get to a freakin dyno tune, and get it correctly running at peak. JMO, but I dont want to blow my motor.

With a thicker headgasket, or ?double stacked?, that will lower my compression, correct? Anybody have any idea at what it might be around. Thanks a lot!!

 
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u can tune it urself, just put it to the settings the company recomends it to be at, then u dunt have to granny drive, ofcourse dynotune will be great to do, let me find the settings

 
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Did you ever find the SETTINGS?

 
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Are the setting for the SAFCII? or the VAFCII, either way. Im a LX, I just want to make sure it is a complete kit, and ready to go with fuel system that wont need upgrading til boost gets turned up. I was wondering if they gave preset settings to whats recommended. I also thought that it will differ at different temps and elevations, so I wasnt sure if they gave some presets to set.

Thats cool though, thanks. If ya ever find the setting, let me know. I have a 01 LX coupe STD