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Hi how is everyone. I'm getting my turbo on my car within a month or two. I just wanted to know if anyone of you guys are running a o2 wideband A/F gauge. I was looking at the AEM uego gauge but I was watching Two guy's garage on speed channel this morning and they showed the wideband commander made by Dyno jet which looks really good. I have 4 Defi gauges (EGT,Oil Pressure, Air Fuel and Boost) but I was told by my custom turbo kit builder that the A/F gauge is useless unless it's wideband. There are a few manufactures out there but I just don't know which one to get. Which one do you guys recommend. Thanks for you help.

 
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PLX Devices

M-250.......or M-300

 
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If you want it mounted in your car and not to use on multiple cars, just get the UEGO gauge combination from AEM. It's the best, and has a good and fast sensor.

If you want one to use in your car and in other people's cars, get the Innovate LM-1. It's not a built in with a gauge, but it's what I have so that I can tune other people's cars as well as my own.

 
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I use the AEM UEGO gauge

 
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MF WERD. The M-250 + Guage combo gives you all the looks of the AEM UEGO with a faster and more accurate contoller and higher quality plastics for cases and connectors.

M-300 is all of the above with a simple digital display and can usually be had for $310-320 new.

 
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^^ I'm going with PLX, myself. Can't beat that price.

 
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go with PLX or innovate. I am using the innovate because of the dataloging capabilities.

 
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Innovate with the Aux Box.

 
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LM-1 Innovative motorsports wide band.

 
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i have autometer a/f ratio what wideband cna i use?

 
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both plx and innovate can support an af guage.

 
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Yeah, but honestly, do you want to put that ugly *** thing in your car? It looks like a radio shack reject. AEM UEGO Gauge all the way. The ONLY one that looks nice.

 
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just helping folks out that need a wide band and are tight on cash. I've used this and a Motec wide band for tuning. AEM is great too.

 
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I just got one off of ebay for $450 shipped. It seems to be a pretty good product and you could also datalog with it. www.widebandcommander.com

 
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You do have to admit, your a little biased on this one right
cough.aem..cough
although I do agree, the lm-1 does not win any beauty contests.

 
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the LM-1 is a great product but it's a little big and I don't have multiple cars to tune

 
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if y'all are interested in the LM-1. Let me know. I can get you a deal on it.

 
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I agree with mirage that the aem one is good - BUT, it has a few faults (besides the price).

The O2 sensor is expensive to replace.

The PLX devices wideband, which I run does now have a gauge they sell as well that rivals the AEM UEGO. OR if you already have an autometer, they sell a voltage conversion module which will convert the signal from wideband to narrowband for use with the autometer - which is what I have done. Works great!

 
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HA HA,

Yes, I am more than a little biased on this topic. I make a very careful attempt to not get into pissing contests about who's is better etc... I am not on 7th Gen as a mouthpiece, I am here as the owner of a 7th gen. But, I think that's obvious by the sheer number of AEM related threads that I don't post on.

I think that the ony thing wrong with the LM-1 is that it is not something that I would put in the interior of my car. It looks like a 60's Star Trek prop. I can just see Spock holding this thing with the sensor stuck into the dirt and proclaming "Fascinating!" Thats not the image I want for the interior of my car, It's a personal preference.

I think that the ONLY displays that you dont have to make excuses for are the AEM and the Dynojet. All others simply look like science projects or halfhearted attempts at a cheap gauge. Take a few minutes and really look at the displays offered. Look at the faces, the bezels, the color choices and I think you will agree.

But, I think the Innovate is probably just as accurate as any of the others and would be just fine for tuning any car. I just don't like the looks.

 
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I completely agree I hide mine under my seat.
I was just poking a little fun.

 
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The LM-1 was NOT designed to be permanently mounted in a car. It was designed to be a portable, cost effective, accurate, and most importantly to use the cheap wideband sensors- for people doing street tuning. This is exactly what I use mine for, I move it between my cars for whichever one needs some checking/tuning that day. I also "rent out" time on the wideband to people for street tuning. Make some good money doing it too. There is a gauge sold by Innovate that looks damn good and allows you to hide the LM-1 and all you will see is a gauge, but by then you're kinda defeating the purpose.

The suck thing about AEM is the cost of the sensors. I can get LM-1 replacement sensors for $32 retail at a VW dealership, the AEM sensors are at least twice that.

 
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aem rips people off period..

 
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oops

 
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Pedro, i have the LM-1 and i personally love it

 
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Wait till they come out with the gauge for it.