04civicdx

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hi i am a nood and was just wondering what should i get turbo or nitrous. my boy says nitrous but a guy that has a 7thgen in del says he is happy with his sf kit so i just was woundering. i have no mony yet but just picked up a 2nd job to start saving for one of them

Mr.Modify

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i say do a swap....but outta those 2 i would go Turbo > Nitrous.

allmotor

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i say get the nx 75 shot wet kit, then when u get tired of spraying on ur d17 then get the k20a2 with bolt-ons and just put the 75 on that. You can also get k-pro and tune it with the 75shot.

thiscrackerntam

^^I couldnt have said it better myself. Nitrous>Turbo

civic01vtec

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no money + wanna be fast = n2o

thiscrackerntam

haha, well nitrous isnt that cheap either if you're buying your stuff brandnew. A full NX wet GenX kit w/ remote opener is gonna run you about $1200, which doesnt include the other stuff you need, but yeah thats still significantly cheaper than what you'd pay boosting our d17 work-horse/throw away engine.

Mr.Modify

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lol dude you act like a k20 is 500 dollars. Let's be realistic and answer the mans question

Mr.Modify

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and no it doesn't ...not in this situation.

jackal903

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i like turbo a lot better....bov sound awsome....
and Nitrous just make me uncomfortable counting by shots.....it will make me feel lost money after using 1 shot.

AceAltima

spaaaaaaaaaare me


if you ask a question like nawz vs turbo, you obvioulsy don't do car homework, so I'd suggest to you a nitro kit...you won't kill yourself with the install and there are tons of people who spray...plus you'll be the idol of 10-18 year old guys who live their live by 2f2f

lol

Anywho, in all reality tho, if you even hafta ask that question you shouldn't even worry, just get the kit...

even tough a turbo car is nice, it just seems that the d17 can't be enjoyed without building your motor...while some guys can be content at 6 psi, i certainly couldn't...


however like most, do your HOMEWORK before you get either...both require knowledge to use correctly and safely....if you have any turbo questions though, ask me, and I'll try to help...any Nitrous questions be sure to ask 'thiscracerkntam'...he's gotten high of the laughy gas and is IMO the resident squeeze guru


BTW: Never ever buy a turbo kit just for a BOV and never admit thats the only reason you like them....keep playing need for speed homo

Civic_RedLine

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I paid about 500 for the complete Edelbrock kit. I say, if you have the money go with turbo, if not then go with nitro.

Just be careful with nitrous.

thiscrackerntam

Sounds like you're contradicting yourself a bit there.... Anyway, perhaps you're not understanding my point of view here. I feel as though the D17 isnt really worth the cost of a turbo setup. On the other hand I feel the K20 is, but to decide which is better for the D17, I say nitrous because its cheaper and faster on the drag for the most part. Its certainly not a bad route to take IMO, atleast until you can save for a swap which is what I plan to start doing very soon. Plus the nitrous kit can always be used after the swap is done and the same does not hold true for the turbo.

EternalBlue_Vic

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AceAltima couldn't have said it better!

thiscrackerntam

I appreciate the good comments. I've been successful using a nitrous wet kit on the 7th gen for sometime now without any additional fuel management and while I think most of that is due to the choice of the best kit for the car (IMO), proper install, and some common sense...it does help a lot when you have friends who have been using nitrous for a long time. If it werent for them, I dont know if I would have ever tried it. I may have been discouraged or a little nervous to try it like a lot of people are. You definitely gain the most knowledge about nitrous by using it and getting experience with it, but that goes the same with everything. You just have to use your brain and be careful..

allmotor

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i wasnt saying anything like that mr modify. I meant to say was when he gets tired of spraying on his d and has a enough money for the k20a2 he can swap it in and get i/h/e and k-pro tune it with the 75 shot and go from there. I never said it was gonna be cheap.

Drk01Civic

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Ha Ha. AceAltima.

Yeah, just go with nitrous.

Civic_RedLine

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hey drk let me buy that strut bar off u

04civicdx

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i have read every thing on this site about nitrous and allmost every thing about turbo .so i did my reading and i think i might go with the n20 than save for a swap .i mean my boy from del with the sf kit could not beat my other boys srt4 .so why spend all that mony and still get beat by a srt4

04civicdx

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o thanks for the help if i need any more help i will ask and thanks agen

EternalBlue_Vic

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If you decide to go with nitrous....go with a wet shot, AND start with the lowest possible shot to gain experience, etc. Also, never spray in 5th, and always spray above 3000rpms.......and pray you don't miss shift with a WOT sprayer actuator....

thiscrackerntam

^^I personally think that the "dont spray in 5th" rule is maybe just a myth. Old and false folklore if you wanna call it that. I know quite a few guys on here including myself who have sprayed in 5th and never broke anything. 5th gear is not that tall of a gear, atleast not in the ex models it isnt. Oh and another thing...if spraying in 5th gear on our little cars were so harsh then NX wouldve put it in their installation manuals as one of their precautions along with the long list they made and they never have and probabaly never will because like I said, I think its just a myth.

thiscrackerntam

That doesnt necessarily mean anything at all. Thats we have rev limiters. I've miss shifted before going into 3rd, and I've bounced off the rev limiter while spraying which totally sucks, but again this doesnt necessarily mean anything bad is going to happen.

04civicdx

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thankes for all the info what n20 kit do i get i know a wet system ?what do i have to do to run a 75 shot? I mean what mods. i know to start small than move up but when i get to that level what do i need

04civicdx

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agen thanks for all the info

thiscrackerntam

What you have to do to run a 75 shot safely depends on the nitrous kit itself, how much care was taken into making sure it was properly installed, and how careful you are using it in general. If you go with nitrous express, all u need is i/h/e. A vafc/safc is recommended but it isnt detrimental to the life of your engine if you dont have one. I dont have one and I've been spraying nothing but a 75 for over a year and no probs. A new clutch should also be added to the list after a while if you're going to be spraying alot.

04civicdx

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the nx kit what one do you have like what part # so i get the right one . and i am new to inports . my last car was a bagged 91 couger siten on 20s so what is a vafc or safc . remeber i have a non vtec d17 .and thanks thiscrakernatam for replyto my
?

thiscrackerntam

Sorry I dont have a part number, but I can tell you that there is only one kit made by nitrous express for our cars so dont worry, there wont be any mix up. Just do a search on google for Nitrous Express stage1 EFI for imports. Also look for the NX gen-X2 accessory kit. As far as the safc and the vafc go theres no difference except the vafc has a vtec controller which is why its called a vafc...so you'll be ok with getting the safc since yours is non-vtec.

04civicdx

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thanks know all i need is cash

TheSmuggler

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How bout both? =)

04civicdx

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hay thiscrakerntam what is the diff from a safc and a safc2 and modcar has a nx kit for 565 is that cheap sorry about all the ? but i whant to know what i am getting my self in to and how much i need to save and thank you for all your help thiscrakerntam