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Old Dec 12, 2004
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I see alot more posts about turbo problems than I do about nitrous. There is just more that can go wrong because of all the parts. With a NOS kit, all you have is a bottle and some lines going to the manifold. But if you don't know how to use it (like me), then don't get it or learn first. Obviously spraying in the wrong gear will make you redline and blow the motor. It's all about knowing how to use it right.
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The Evo MR doesn't lag as bad as the regular Evo 8. If you're waiting, buy the Evo 9 when it comes out next fall. All the same features as the current MR, but without the limited quantities and high price.

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I'll be buying an Evo 9 or a Supra TT next late fall/winter. Got a new high paying job lined up in FL.
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ok lets say you went turbo. 4k

nitrous 650
engine with strengthened internals and other supporting mods ~3500

ability to run more nitrous and wail on the turbovics? priceless

who cares if the power isnt there all the time? you only need power when you race
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Originally Posted by ngophat
ok lets say you went turbo. 4k

nitrous 650
engine with strengthened internals and other supporting mods ~3500

ability to run more nitrous and wail on the turbovics? priceless

who cares if the power isnt there all the time? you only need power when you race

WERD!

Except, The turbo is going to be about 5-6k after everything is said and done, not 4k, and I dont think the d17 is worth the money spent on internals.

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I'll be buying a 05 STi this spring.....and yes it outperforms the MR for $6,000 less.
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Originally Posted by AceAltima
Don't mislead the poor member...boost is entirely throttle dependent, and doesn't put nearly as much stress on the engine if properly tuned/maintained...
I agree..........just driving around, i take it easy on the throttle and i keep it under 3lbs of boost. Sometimes i get on it good to have a little fun. But i don't beat my car.........well, 99% of the time i don't

I've been boosting for 8 months now, i run 9psi daily and have hit 13psi and i am still on my stock HG. I am gonna do a compression test soon and re-torque the head for added precaution.
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Originally Posted by gearbox
I see alot more posts about turbo problems than I do about nitrous.

That is b/c boost is addicting and ppl get too greedy and turn up the boost. Just about everyone that has had problems have been running 10+ lbs. In due time with this much stress, something has to give.
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^^didnt Madwheel bust his HG on 6psi?
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Originally Posted by thiscrackerntam
^^didnt Madwheel bust his HG on 6psi?

I don't think his busted. I know that he was running 9psi and his pressure switch for the alchy injection quit.

But running high boost doesn't really mean that u will blow your HG. Many ppl blow theirs at low boost b/c of detonation.
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I could've swore I remember him saying it did. Maybe he'll be back and he'll answer the question for us.
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Originally Posted by gearbox
Maybe get the nos and build up internals. That would still be cheaper than turbo and more reliable.
Exactly what I decided to do. I have be reading about it, and learning. Not gonna get it for at least 3 or 4 months, maybe feb. Gotts be smart with it first. I was wanting a turbo, but I dont need the power all the time, and it is way tooo much money for me to spend. So I figured 600 isnt bad at all, plus I would be able to whoop SOME of the turbo'd civic's. I was gonna start building up internals somewhat, than prob sell my car for something fast. Every time I buy something for my car, before the cash is out of my account, I am aware I flushed it down the crapper, but Im gonna have a little fun before I get something nice.
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Originally Posted by thiscrackerntam
I could've swore I remember him saying it did. Maybe he'll be back and he'll answer the question for us.
now that i think about it.......i think he did
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Originally Posted by 2K1Civic17"Gabe
So I figured 600 isnt bad at all, plus I would be able to whoop SOME of the turbo'd civic's.

key word ........ SOME
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thats why I wrote SOME in large letter, instead of i would whoop on every single car and turbod civics and corvettes and vipers, blah blah j/p
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[QUOTE=2K1Civic17"Gabe]plus I would be able to whoop SOME of the turbo'd civic's. QUOTE]

Originally Posted by civic01vtec
key word ........ SOME
He said some because he didnt wanna hurt you guys' feelins. j/k
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Originally Posted by thiscrackerntam
You should not be the one misleading members by speaking on the behalf of civic owners when you dont drive a 7th gen and by not mentioning the large amount downtime that so many other boosted 7th gen owners have had to endure.
You do make a strong point with the civic boost problems....whew thank god i've got a nice lil nissan!! boost all day and play all night!!

I keep forgetting that a turbo on a nissan is almost entirely plug and play, espeically with the Jim Wolf ECU...unplug stock ecu, plug in jwt, boost happy :]
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I dont see how you people are coming up with $6 grand for a turbo. My turbo, installation, all parts, AND a rebuilt engine = around $4200.

Turbo is better, period.
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Bottles are for babies that can WHOOP your A$$ man. Blow this...
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Highly doubt it dude.
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either way, im not a drug dealer and i cant afford to blow 5k in a turbo. nitrous sounds nice but knowing me, i will use it up alot since i got ricing on tue/thurs/fri.

oh, alot of the racers here in dfw are shady & i might get my turbo kit jacked. I know certain ppls with b18's and b20's around here that almost everything in there car is HOT.

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Highly doubt it dude.
Your auto aint got sh*t...PERIOD. Just pack it up and go to sleep.
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Originally Posted by Titleist71
I'll be buying a 05 STi this spring.....and yes it outperforms the MR for $6,000 less.
as much of a fan as i am of subaru (hell i got a wrx...) i would have to say that the sti might have more straight line power, but thats it. even the evo 8 base model will dust an sti on the track...the suspensions on those things are far better than wrxs and stis. I dont have the topgear vid anymore, but i saw one where they pitted an sti against an evo on the track. the evo actually ran better lap times than a friggen zonda. the scooby was nowhere close.
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Originally Posted by lkm
either way, im not a drug dealer and i cant afford to blow 5k in a turbo. nitrous sounds nice but knowing me, i will use it up alot since i got ricing on tue/thurs/fri.
Ace's guide to going turbo

1. Live at home
2. Don't date girls, only meet your needs with them
3. Only eat Ramen noodles
4. Sell every bolt on you bought before you go turbo
4a. - Don't waste time with bolt ons if you truely want boost (saves time)
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Originally Posted by ngophat
as much of a fan as i am of subaru (hell i got a wrx...) i would have to say that the sti might have more straight line power, but thats it. even the evo 8 base model will dust an sti on the track...the suspensions on those things are far better than wrxs and stis. I dont have the topgear vid anymore, but i saw one where they pitted an sti against an evo on the track. the evo actually ran better lap times than a friggen zonda. the scooby was nowhere close.
you must not watch much tv or read many magazines. All the ratings favor the 05 STi. My best friend ownes one, he knows alot, alot about them. The Sti has more torque and overall HP to the tar than the EVO. This was done as a result of the MR, STi built the 05 not Subaru, cause they focked it up the 04 so bad they needed STi to come in and redo all their mistakes. Didn't know that huh. Research and learn. Yup the MR has a slightly and I say slightly better suspension...but thats it. Oh ya, I saw that video too...the Spec C EJ20 came in first over the EVO.Sorry.
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Originally Posted by Titleist71
you must not watch much tv or read many magazines. All the ratings favor the 05 STi. My best friend ownes one, he knows alot, alot about them. The Sti has more torque and overall HP to the tar than the EVO. This was done as a result of the MR, STi built the 05 not Subaru, cause they focked it up the 04 so bad they needed STi to come in and redo all their mistakes. Didn't know that huh. Research and learn. Yup the MR has a slightly and I say slightly better suspension...but thats it. Oh ya, I saw that video too...the Spec C EJ20 came in first over the EVO.Sorry.
think you saw a different vid. the top gear i saw only had the sti and evo. nothing else.

btw, mod your sti and youll be lucky if you dont get sky high egts. thats apparently a problem on the wrx boards.
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Originally Posted by ngophat
think you saw a different vid. the top gear i saw only had the sti and evo. nothing else.

btw, mod your sti and youll be lucky if you dont get sky high egts. thats apparently a problem on the wrx boards.
don't need to mod the STi, it's fast enough. Actually has more power than it's rated. My friend did mod his STi. GPMOTO Stage 1 kit. Equal length header, turboback exhaust, open element intake and piggyback chip guaranteed to give 360 whp, 420+ft lbs. Look at the website.No EGT problems, no lean conditions..just better performance. I think your referring to the 04 STi. I am speaking of the 05 which is 10x the car.
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the sti puts down about 250 whp. not overrated. many dynos of stock stis have been done

anyway, your decision. id go for an evo though
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is this a subaru debate or a nitrous vs turbo thread?
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