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Old Aug 10, 2004
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just RSX injectors?

will i be ok in the meantime to run just rsx-s injectors and tune with SAFC II while boosting 7psi?

im looking into the msd inline pump and votech fmu. what about a return line? with a pump and fmu, is it necesary to run a return line then?
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I say take you time and do a nice job the first time and if you want to make big numbers hten your gonna need to get the return line and better fuel pump and a fuel pressure regulator would be handy too. then you could tune that with the safc but if you wanna get the most out of you rsx injectors I say get the emanage and the injector harness so you can tune it really nice.
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hmm... what can emanage and harness do that safc II won't or can't?
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emanage has a much more elaborate way of controlling fuel. i dont know how to exactly explain it, but trust me e-manage is better. and for only $100 extra you get a much better product.
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when you add the injector harness it can be reclabrated to controll the larger size injectors more precise. it also lets you tune the ignition timing and vtec.
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did anyone get the emanage vtec controller to work correctly all the time? I havent messed with it since I first tried durning the install.
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If you get into the fuel injectors you'll find the higher rated injectors are higher rated because they can withstand more presure. So if you have RSX injectors, you will be adding about 15% to the pulse width of your injectors (aka you cna put in 15% more fuel, so you can only push 15% more power out of your motor). The key to RSX injector is that they can take a higher fuel pressure than your stock injectors. So if you raise the pressure up 25%, you can get 25% more fuel plus the addtional 15% from the pulse width.

In short, don't put to much boost untill you have the fuel pump and regulator tuned in.
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Originally Posted by Jrfish007
If you get into the fuel injectors you'll find the higher rated injectors are higher rated because they can withstand more presure. So if you have RSX injectors, you will be adding about 15% to the pulse width of your injectors (aka you cna put in 15% more fuel, so you can only push 15% more power out of your motor). The key to RSX injector is that they can take a higher fuel pressure than your stock injectors. So if you raise the pressure up 25%, you can get 25% more fuel plus the addtional 15% from the pulse width.

In short, don't put to much boost untill you have the fuel pump and regulator tuned in.


7psi isn't too much is it? i personally think 7 isn't too high...
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7psi isn't too much is it? i personally think 7 isn't too high...

17 psi is generally considered as the doubling point for boost (aka, at 17 psi you should make about double your N/A hp) if you take 7/17 that's .412, so you have an increase of 41.2% hp at 7 psi. All other things give equal, 127*1.412=179hp. (127 being bone stock and 1.412 being the percent increased) is going to give you 179 hp. now not all things are equal, and this only an estimate, but to me that seems to be a big increase. I wouls personally keep to about 4 psi untill the fuel system gets sorted out (the last thing you want to do is run lean... that will blow your motor real fast)
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yeah...too bad my wastegate is internal and set at a base of 7psi. i wouldnt be as worried about my fuel problems if i just KNEW HOW TO ADJUST the wastegate to base at 4 or 5 psi...
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you can go with rsx injectors.........but u will have to get it dyno tuned immediately with piggyback. I suggest the E-manage.

You will be better off getting a FMU also, but not really needed.

With this set-up, you do not need a return line.

MY set-up right now is stock injectors, Vortech FMU, MSD inline pump running 9psi untuned. I will be getting the E-manage very soon.
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Originally Posted by reytito
yeah...too bad my wastegate is internal and set at a base of 7psi. i wouldnt be as worried about my fuel problems if i just KNEW HOW TO ADJUST the wastegate to base at 4 or 5 psi...

There should be a little rod coming from the wastegate actuator to the downpipe of the turbo. Take the rod off the DP and turn it.

To make more boost, make the rod shorter........to make less boost, make the rod longer. Then hook it back up and take it for a ride.

BTW..........the engine will make more boost if it is hot. Therefore if you set your boost and go for a drive and see that you are boosting 5 psi, when u drive for about 20-30 min, u will be making around 6 or 7psi.
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Originally Posted by civic01vtec
you can go with rsx injectors.........but u will have to get it dyno tuned immediately with piggyback. I suggest the E-manage.

You will be better off getting a FMU also, but not really needed.

With this set-up, you do not need a return line.

MY set-up right now is stock injectors, Vortech FMU, MSD inline pump running 9psi untuned. I will be getting the E-manage very soon.

how long have you run on that setup?
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thats great news to me. how hard is the fuel pump to install? i know fmu is pretty easy...perhaps some diagrams might make you GOD in my eyes
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Originally Posted by reytito
thats great news to me. how hard is the fuel pump to install? i know fmu is pretty easy...perhaps some diagrams might make you GOD in my eyes

I think he siad it was an inline pump. I haven't put one on a 7thgen before, but on my '94, I simply cut the fuel line under the car and put it in the cut spot and wired it. I put mine right after the fuel line came out of the tank and down to the bottom of the car, I think it should be okay as long as you put it before the main fuel filter and under the car. Those inline pumps don't generally have a enough NPSH to be put above the tank. But I'm sure civic01vtec can be of better assistance since he has put one on a 7thgen before.
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With a RSX-S pump and injectors, running a MF2 and 2 extra injectors should be safe running 7psi, no?
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i doubt you'd even need the 2 extra injectors...
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Originally Posted by reytito
i doubt you'd even need the 2 extra injectors...
I'm not going to be getting the E-Manage for a while so no piggy back besides the MF2..
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What's the RSX pump rated for? Since the Type-S makes 200 horse, I think a type-S would work fine if it fits. I also doubt you need the extra injectors at 7 psi.
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Originally Posted by civic01vtec
you can go with rsx injectors.........but u will have to get it dyno tuned immediately with piggyback. I suggest the E-manage.

You will be better off getting a FMU also, but not really needed.

With this set-up, you do not need a return line.

MY set-up right now is stock injectors, Vortech FMU, MSD inline pump running 9psi untuned. I will be getting the E-manage very soon.
so would just rsx injectors, an inline fuel pump, and e-manage be enough for a good fuel setup? is the e-manage considered an FMU?
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it would be enough, but the return fuel conversion would get the most out of it.
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ya. well, i just purchased my RSX-S injectors, so i think im gonna give that and the e-manage a try and if i dont like how it is running i will get the return fuel down the line.
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Originally Posted by civic01vtec
There should be a little rod coming from the wastegate actuator to the downpipe of the turbo. Take the rod off the DP and turn it.

To make more boost, make the rod shorter........to make less boost, make the rod longer. Then hook it back up and take it for a ride.

BTW..........the engine will make more boost if it is hot. Therefore if you set your boost and go for a drive and see that you are boosting 5 psi, when u drive for about 20-30 min, u will be making around 6 or 7psi.
just was wondering if anyone else knows if this is true.. my actuator does not have a thing to turn so is there any other way to adjust the wastegate
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