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Old Jul 22, 2004
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which engine should i buy?

okay i have a 6th gen civci i was wondering which engine i should get :P


B16a SiR I Engine

INCLUDES: Engine (Complete head & block)
- intake manifold
- exhaust manifold
- harness (cut in 1/2 at the firewall)
- distributor
- alternator
- vtec solenoid
- and other access. for start-up!
Transmission (Cable)
ECU
MILAGE: 25-40k


TYPE: 1.6L DOHC VTEC
HORSE POWER: 160 HP
TORQUE: 111lbs
COMPRESSION: 10.2
this one will run me 2650 shipped


B16b Type R Engine

INCLUDES: Engine (Complete head & block)
- intake manifold
- exhaust manifold
- harness (cut in 1/2 at the firewall)
- distributor
- alternator
- vtec solenoid
- and other access. for start-up!
Transmission (Hydro)
ECU
MILAGE: 25-40k

TYPE: 1.6L DOHC VTEC
HORSE POWER: 185 HP
TORQUE: 117lbs
COMPRESSION: 10.8
this one will run me around 5K shipped

should i get one of these 2 or something else? or just keep my engine and build it up
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Old Jul 22, 2004
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B16b out of those two. B18c Type R out of others
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Old Jul 22, 2004
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b18c5
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Old Jul 22, 2004
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I would say get the B16A out of the SiR and then sell the tranny. Find a tranny out of an Si here and then slap that on. IIRC, the 99-00 Si has a hydro tranny.

Take and put the B16A on an engine stand and with the extra $2500 you saved, build it. New pistons, rods, camshafts, crank. Build it and go all motor.
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$5k shipped for a B16b??? wtf, you can get it for much cheaper than that ...

infact, just like hawk said ... just get a jdm b18c. Either r spec or gsr spec ... it'll run you MUCH MUCH cheaper than a b16b. B18c's will run about $4k + shipping, b18c spec gsr will be able $500-1000 cheaper than that... not to mention both motors are strong and have much better torque and response to mods.

b16b ... only good thing about this is LSD and revving to 9k stock. However, all it is is a built Si motor

B18c Spec GSR
10.6 compression (?)
180 hp
128 tq
redline 8200

B18c spec R (98+)
11.0 compression
210 hp <---15 more hp than a b18c5
134 tq
redline 8900
LSD

edit: if you need some b18 motivation, goto hondata.com and download the Erick's Racing GSR vid. A guy has an all motor 2.0L (bored b18c1) running flat 11's, revving to 10,800 rpms

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okay i can get the b18GSR engine for 3950.00 shipped or the B18c5 96-00 Type R Enginefor 5050 shipped the only thing is i don't thing the c5 is automatic =\ the gsr is and i need automatic
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If you're gonna go auto with any one of these 'performance' motors, it's going to be a waste of time and money probably. The only reason I'd keep it auto is because I'd be boosting it. Other than that, I'd go MT.
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well i will boost but i want to swap my engine first
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the only auto b18 is the b18a and b18b ... none of the b18c models are auto and never have been (to my knowledge)

learn how to drive stick ... much more fun
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Originally Posted by SuperFrankie
well i will boost but i want to swap my engine first
Okay. If you're going to boost, then you should be fine.

What motor do you have now? I'm going to assume a D16Y8.

What you can do is just get the package and then sell off the tranny and try and find an AT. AFAIK, the motors aren't any different as to what transmission bolts up to it. Meaning if the motor was originally MT, you can bolt an AT to it.
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yea a d16y8 and the GSR engine comes in an automatic
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are there even any pins for the AT in the ecu? ... I don't think there are
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i dunno but i have the option of
JDMB18GSR JDM B18c GSR engine + auto tranny + ECU (OBDI) $3750.00
SHIPPED!

JDMB18GSR JDM B18c GSR engine + manual tranny + ECU (OBDI) $3750.00
SHIPPED!

JDMB18GSR JDM B18c GSR engine + auto tranny + ECU (OBDII) $3950.00
SHIPPED!

JDMB18GSR JDM B18c GSR engine + manual tranny + ECU (OBDII) $3950.00
SHIPPED!

so i guess there is? lol
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Originally Posted by SuperFrankie
i dunno but i have the option of
JDMB18GSR JDM B18c GSR engine + auto tranny + ECU (OBDI) $3750.00
SHIPPED!

JDMB18GSR JDM B18c GSR engine + manual tranny + ECU (OBDI) $3750.00
SHIPPED!

JDMB18GSR JDM B18c GSR engine + auto tranny + ECU (OBDII) $3950.00
SHIPPED!

JDMB18GSR JDM B18c GSR engine + manual tranny + ECU (OBDII) $3950.00
SHIPPED!

so i guess there is? lol
very strange ... I've never seen an auto gsr before. *shrug* ... I still say learn manual. It'll be much more fun
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Old Jul 22, 2004
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i agree i can half way drive a stick i drove my dads dodge ram once but i would much rather have an automatic that way i don't have to concentrate on the gears i just floor it and go =\ lol
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Originally Posted by SuperFrankie
i agree i can half way drive a stick i drove my dads dodge ram once but i would much rather have an automatic that way i don't have to concentrate on the gears i just floor it and go =\ lol
manuals are better due to not as much power lost to drivetrain and that autos don't go all the way to rev limiter ... well, imo autos don't get as much respect becuase you don't really need skill to drive ... just a hard foot

auto turbo > manual turbo though *shrug*
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i think ya'll talked me in to the GSR
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if you ask me its B18C-R or nuthing, but if you don't wanna spend the extra loot, go for the b18c (GSR) If you plan on turboing you might wanna look into a B18b with a b18c head (LS-VTEC). You get low compresion pistons and a good flowing head. Plus b18b's are pretty cheap.

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Originally Posted by Hawk
if you ask me its B18C-R or nuthing, but if you don't wanna spend the extra loot, go for the b18c (GSR) If you plan on turboing you might wanna look into a B18b with a b18c head (LS-VTEC). You get low compresion pistons and a good flowing head. Plus b18b's are pretty cheap.
Werd. Get the LS with the GSR tranny and boost that bish.
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b20 with a b16 head. period
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BOOO, i say LS VTEC, definately for boostin it. Not to mention, you can find a ls auto at your local junkyard im sure
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