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Old Apr 30, 2004
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Turbo Civic Production Model

I hope this isnt a repost, but my dad works for US Engine Valve in Westminister, SC. at their plant they make valves for the 7th generation civics. He said there were some big honda guys in today and they said that Honda is putting out a Turbo Civic... either in 05 or 06. I'm very interested how these will perform. But that means we'll be able to get cheaper turbos for our cars. right? What have you guys heard about this??
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i've heard somehting on speed channel about a civic comming stock turbo...like an SI mode or somehting
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i doubt it will ever happen considering the civic is a economy car. If it does happen, the cost of it will be too high to compete with other cars in its class that will spank the civic anyways.
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Originally posted by civic01vtec
i doubt it will ever happen considering the civic is a economy car. If it does happen, the cost of it will be too high to compete with other cars in its class that will spank the civic anyways.
Bingo. Sorry to say it, but Honda can't produce a turbo Civic for around $20k that will run a low 14 high 13, and the SRT-4 Neon can do this all day long. That will stop Honda in their tracks. Or at least I hope that it will, or they'll have another multi-million dollar loss (i'm talking about the current Si hatchback) that sits on dealer lots costing Honda money.

Plus think about it... what has Honda been trying to get away from with their new line of cars? Easy modification. Every change in body and powertrain to all the new model Honda's has had to do with gas mileage, emissions, and comfort, not looking toward easy modifications like they did with the Integra while it was still being produced.
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i'll believe it when i see it.

extremely doubtful, IMHO

if the S2000 and NSX, Honda's flagship sports cars, don't have forced induction, what makes you think their econobox will?
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i'll believe it when i see it !!! very doubtful
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It won't happen. Most of the people who buy the civic want a cheap economy car. To make it turbo for a handful of ricers isn't good business, unless they offer it as an upgrade package. I wouldn't even want it. What's the fun of modding if everyone is driving around with a turbo?
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Maybe a limited production performance model like the Mazdaspeed Protege is possible, but even it would more than likely be a high-revving N/A motor as per Honda's typical performance models.
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Originally posted by dragoon
Maybe a limited production performance model like the Mazdaspeed Protege is possible, but even it would more than likely be a high-revving N/A motor as per Honda's typical performance models.
agreed
Its not Hondas tradition to produce turbo autos. I HIGHLY doubt they will. Prolly a SI coupe in the near future pushing close to RSX numbers but thast about it.
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well, i'm just going by what i've heard. And i feel that my source is a reliable one.
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Originally posted by RedDragon333
agreed
Its not Hondas tradition to produce turbo autos. I HIGHLY doubt they will. Prolly a SI coupe in the near future pushing close to RSX numbers but thast about it.
yeah 2nd to that, when was the last time honda made a production turbo? its not their style, thats why vtec came in didnt it?
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i dont think it will happen any time soon, if ever. i would agree with whoever said something about a civic coupe... probably pushing close to 180 hp. maybe a new Si coupe or something
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Think about it this way..........

If I told you 4 years ago that Dodge would be coming out with a Turbo Neon that ran high 13 and low 14's all day and was faster than the new Z and S2000 you guys would kicked me off this board. Fact of the matter is they did, believe the Neon is faster in 1/4 than those cars for like 10 grand cheaper.

Did dodge produce numerous turbo cars before that, I don't think so.

They made that car for the ricers. The thing you have to understand is that WE are a market now. Companies are going to start making "TUNER" aka Ricer cars.......ala the SCION.

Honda is aware of all the customization that is done to thier cars and to my surprise even promotes it to some extent. If you don't believe me go to the dealer and take a look at the new Si brochure. They have two full color pages of customized EP's ranging from the Mugen EP to of course full blown ricers. It says some mumbo jumbo about how some people want to stick out in the crowd or whatever. Then on the bottom in the fine print it talks about how modding the car will void your warranty. LOL. So they promote it but they warn you, how funny.

When it comes down to it, do I think Honda will do it? Who the hell knows but every damn car company and their mother has some sort of Forced Induction car or truck in their Lineup right now. Nissan, VW, Subaru, Dodge, Saab, Mazda, Toyota, Mercedes, and I'm sure a few more I'm just going off the top of my head.....

Only time will tell I guess.
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The SRT-4 is marketed as a limited production performance model, similar to the Mazdaspeed Protege.

As far as limited production turbo models that Dodge has come out with, the performance versions of the Sundance, Stealth, Daytona, Shadow, and even the lowly Omni come to mind. DiamlerChrysler has, in fact, and often in conjunction with Shelby, produced numerous turbo cars before the SRT-4.
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Originally posted by ViNRoCk8
Think about it this way..........

If I told you 4 years ago that Dodge would be coming out with a Turbo Neon that ran high 13 and low 14's all day and was faster than the new Z and S2000 you guys would kicked me off this board. Fact of the matter is they did, believe the Neon is faster in 1/4 than those cars for like 10 grand cheaper.

Did dodge produce numerous turbo cars before that, I don't think so.

Actually the SRT4 Motor came from a production turbo car in Mexico. So dodge does actually have research in turbo charged cars but not stateside. Honda is noteable anywhere you go for being an all out all motor producer. I have yet to see them produce a single turbo car in any country. It would be a huge risk for them in the reliability department to even consider it especially with the amount of research it would take to do so. In the end it would cost them too much $.
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Heh, everytime something new comes out a "limited time" sticker is slapped on it..... why? because they understand that if people think it won't be around to buy in the future, they can sell more. The more that are sold, the more people tell their friends about it. Then their friends tell friends and more people buy it. Limited time or production for the most part. They see it as a trial period. That way if it sucks, well it was a limited time thing so oh well.
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BTW s2000 is considered a limited producion vehicle as well.
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Originally posted by wzcb08
I have yet to see them produce a single turbo car in any country.
Honda has much experience developing turbo motors for the thier race circuit.

I guess you've never seen the NSX GT1 Turbo that they made to compete with the McLaren.

If they decide to I don't think they would have to much trouble making a turbo motor.

Do I think it would happen, No.

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it would be nice...
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I thought that honda made a 1.5L turbo version of the 7thgen in another country, also didnt honda make a few turbo cars back in th day?

It would surprise me if the didnt come out w/ a turbo civic for the Us, the markets here.
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i thought honda was known for their n/a cars only. like the nsx and s2000?. they both have a ridicoulous amount of power for just being n/a. IU doubt they will make a turbo car and let alone make it the civic first. i would be a new model or an s2000 maybe something worth turboing. Would be cool tho..
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Well, a turbo engine that can pass emissions stateside, let alone make LEV or ULEV standards?

Sounds like castration to me.
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I'd buy one
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I doubt they will make a turbo civic, although rumors have been going around about it. But that doesn't mean Honda doesnt have experience in turbos, i read the clubrsx forums a lot and one of those guys actually test drove a brand new turbo Accord (TSX) that had AWD action too. Some people dont believe him but he seemed to be very reliable.
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I think that turbo AWD TSX was posted on April 1st.
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There are turbo charged Hondas currently offered in Japan, one of the Life models as well as the xB looking model, but they use a 1.3L motor and have a turbo for economy, not for power.
Add that to the fact that the trend with manufacturers right now is to offer a car that is easily modified, we may see forced induction stateside.
What you guy's might not realize is that Honda started off manufacturing motorcycles and the old S600 came with a 2-stroke motor.

Now let this Honda info feed your imaginations...
they first used V-tec in there Moto racing
they currently offer a turbo charged jet-ski
they currently offer a bike with a flat in-line 1832cc 6 cylinder engine
(larger displacement then an '01 Type-R Integ)
they currently offer forced induction vehicles overseas
Now with the history of Honda cars following the motorcycle technology, quote me:

"Within the next 10 years, Honda will be manufacturing a car with a turbo charged, opposed motor"

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Originally posted by dragoon
Well, a turbo engine that can pass emissions stateside, let alone make LEV or ULEV standards?

Sounds like castration to me.
Turbochargers generally lower emissions provided that the fuel is tuned properly.
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Originally posted by ToyBoxMotors

Qoute me:

"Within the next 10 years, Honda will be manufacturing a car with a turbo charged, opposed motor"
You've been quoted.
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Originally posted by RiceBurnrEX
Plus think about it... what has Honda been trying to get away from with their new line of cars? Easy modification. Every change in body and powertrain to all the new model Honda's has had to do with gas mileage, emissions, and comfort, not looking toward easy modifications like they did with the Integra while it was still being produced.
YOUR so right. HONDA is wasting their time. the market is SO HUNGRY for easy to modify cars, so i guess honda got a NEW MARKETING DIRECTOR, bc hes going the wrong way. a factory turbo engine would make things so much easier. everything about our cars sucks. suspension sucks, important parts are freaking plastic!!!, a plastic intake manifold. come on! hell if a stock d16 IM would fit, id put that on there. they should just make a turbo version and a non turbo version like most companys do, turbo neon and no turbo neon, use the same concept there and they can please both markets.
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i personally wouldnt want to see a stock turbo'd civic cause then everybody would have one and it wouldnt be as cool to have a turbo civic. like now since not many people at all have turbo'd civics, those that do are thought high of and looked up upon for that, if they came stock turbo it will be just "oh, another turbo civic. ok"
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