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Old Mar 12, 2004
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Thumbs up best head gasket for boost

I ordered a replacement headgasket from majestic honda last week and I noticed there was 2 different part numbers. I called to investigate and I discovered that honda updated to a nipon leakless head gasket. It arived today, and this thing looks bullet proof. Its made from 2 layers of steel that have been rubber coated around the seeling points. I realy think that this thing will hold a lot of boost before it gives up. I'll try to post some pics of it later tonight.
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haha, i was just thinking about head gaskets 10 min ago while i was in the shower........LOL

sounds great man......can't wait to hear the results
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That's awesome!! PICS PICS PICS!!!

Oh yeah, and since they have a different part number, would it be too much to ask to measure it against your stock head gasket and see if there's any difference in thickness?!
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yea ive noticed this also and had a talk today with the serivce guy at my local dealership.... i asked to order the headgasket... they were like ok .. i was like 'YO arent there two different ones?" dude was like **** your right... so i went on to say.. WELL doesnt one of them say leakless? obviously i want that one.. they guy continues to stare at the screen and is like.. ' do you want a job? '
haha i was laughin my *** off and took an application.


but yea GET the leakless one.. obviously its gotta be better then the other one. NO? lol

well i have a pic of the normal one from my old engine... post urs maybe u can physically see it in the pics the differences
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I'll throw a set of calipers on it tomarrow and see if theres a difference in thickness.

Hmm...it looks a lot like that normal one in the pic
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Originally posted by RiceBuRNeR
I'll throw a set of calipers on it tomarrow and see if theres a difference in thickness.

Hmm...it looks a lot like that normal one in the pic

damn and that one was off of my original engine.. i bought the car in oct 2000(first one to the dealership)... so i would ASSUME.. only assume that its not the leakless. but who knows.
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^ checked the part number...mine is the leakless. Maybe mines thicker? I wont know untill tomarrow.
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hmm that black coating gos all the way to the edges on mine.
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Originally posted by RiceBuRNeR
hmm that black coating gos all the way to the edges on mine.
i ordered on recently and got the nippon one for the heck of it. the black goes all the way to the edges. the one i have is 3 layers.
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Hmm after closer inspection so does mine.
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Hrrmmm...keep us posted
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Hopefully the pics will be up today.
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man, i am going to go and check that out today....how much did it cost you at your dealership
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I got it for $22 + shipping from majestic hondas website.
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hey, riceburner, do you thinkt that you can post a link to that headgasket...i cant find it anywhere on that site....
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http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...R+HEAD+%282%29

370596 005 GASKET, CYLINDER HEAD (NIPPON LEAKLESS)
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thanks man, i really appreciate your help.......you are always there for everyone....thanks man
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so what are you guys thinkin....that we can run higher boost with this on factory internals....what is yalls thinkin
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The gasket may hold but Id still worry about snapping a rod.
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Originally posted by jwcardy
so what are you guys thinkin....that we can run higher boost with this on factory internals....what is yalls thinkin

yea dont run ne more boost. this will just stop it from blowing at 9-10.. i hope.

mike(cat) told me to torque the head bolts to 57 instead of 49. so maybe that is supposed to help alot.. but yea ur rods will break.
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thanks...yeah i knew all of that...i was just a lil confused...thought that yall were going to try and up the boost.....was just wondering....i am gettin a diff motor built not to long from now...waiting on it to be pulled out of wrecked car....exospeed is going to build it for me for 20lbs safely....
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I seriously doubt this thing is 100% leakless. I can believe that it would be harder to burn off a seal on this gasket than it would be on a regular oem gasket BUT, what is the first thing to go on your motor when you're tearing **** up? The headgasket, almost always.

If you are running safely, with just a little bit more torque on your headbolts, you should be fine. If you aren't running safely, you may not know it until you do some serious damage because the gasket never gave. That's the beauty of these engines, the headgasket is the weakest link (and cheapest, usually). By removing the weakest link, you'll destroy the next weakest link which could be a piston and it could be a rod. It's much more time consuming, aggravating and costly to replace parts in the bottom end than just replacing a gasket.

Replacing the headgasket, all you do is pull the head, make sure it isn't warped, have it milled if it is, put a new gasket in and put it back together. When you pull the entire bottom end apart, there are more gaskets to replace, more parts to keep track of and guess what? You have to pull the head off anyways.

With replacing the gasket, you know something's wrong immediately and you can catch it and fix it before you do more damage.
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Awesome info guys. Any idea on how hard it is to replace the gasket? I dont want to pay the premium to have some one else do it...

While the head is off... Any suggestions for other mods while I'm there that I can do with minimal downtime? I'm looking into rods and pistions... I may just do it all at once, including a KMS block guard...

Any suggestions? I wanna do this right, and need to keep it reliable for road-racing...
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Originally posted by MadWheel
Awesome info guys. Any idea on how hard it is to replace the gasket? I dont want to pay the premium to have some one else do it...

While the head is off... Any suggestions for other mods while I'm there that I can do with minimal downtime? I'm looking into rods and pistions... I may just do it all at once, including a KMS block guard...

Any suggestions? I wanna do this right, and need to keep it reliable for road-racing...
I am waiting on DH heads. I might (I said might) have a blown water jacket. I wnet ahead and ordered the leakless OEM gasket. I talked with DH and they recommended putting in the KMS block guard while I have the head off. It is supposed to be an easy installation. We will see.

I know the block guard does not replace a built engine (rods/piston) but it cant hurt too much. I am looking for a used small block to build out for insurance.
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Originally posted by guns
I am looking for a used small block to build out for insurance.
do u mean short block
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Originally posted by C2i0v0i1C
do u mean short block
Anything constructive to add?
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how is that not constructive? short block is a lil diff than a small block
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which one is it small or short, and im not a fan of blockguards, ive seen them warp sleeves
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Originally posted by C2i0v0i1C
which one is it small or short, and im not a fan of blockguards, ive seen them warp sleeves
I cant sleep and small block slipped out when I ment short block.. I have heard of cooling problems assoc w/ block guards. DH seems think they are the way to go. I guess I will learn myself (maybe the hard way) soon...
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Originally posted by RiceBuRNeR
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...R+HEAD+%282%29

370596 005 GASKET, CYLINDER HEAD (NIPPON LEAKLESS)
thanks for the link
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